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Re: [OM] IMG: Poppy Bloom Redux

Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Poppy Bloom Redux
From: Robert Adler <rgacpa@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:54:05 -0700
Got it. I may work for awhile on this and repost. A BIG thank you to all!!
Best,
Bob

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Piers Hemy <piers@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Agreed, Tina, but LCE does not require LR, it can be done very simply in
> PS.
> On thinking about it, I suspect that the Unsharp Mask is a darkroom
> technique carried over (with the terminolgy which is oddly meaningless for
> a
> purely digital worker) into PS.
>
> To my way of thinking LCE is simply USM applied in a subtle way.
>
> Piers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tina Manley [mailto:images@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 25 March 2013 18:56
> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Poppy Bloom Redux
>
> It's the Clarity slider in LR, I think.
>
> Tina
>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Thanks. Is that something easily done in CS or does it require some
> > other program/technique?
> > Ignorant-yet-dying-to-know Bob
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Piers Hemy <piers@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Local Contrast Enhancement.
> > >
> > > Attentive-to-Moose Piers
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Robert Adler [mailto:rgacpa@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: 25 March 2013 17:58
> > > To: Olympus Camera Discussion
> > > Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Poppy Bloom Redux
> > >
> > > Thanks Moose.
> > > What's LCE?
> > > Best,
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 3/24/2013 3:12 PM, usher99@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > >> I preferred the composition with the blue flower in the
> > > > >> foreground but,
> > > > on closer inspection (even at this small size), it appears that
> > > > the blue flower is either out of focus or blurred by motion.
> > > >
> > > > The eagle eye was immediately objecting to that OOF blue flower,
> > > > before any other sense of composition, etc. could decide what it
> > > > thought about it.
> > > >
> > > > > Yep, that was the vertical element to which I was alluding.  I
> > > > > thought the tilt or motion had something to do with it though
> > > > > the spot of color was very nice.
> > > > > When I open the image in Photme, I see the red channel a smidge
> > > > > clipped.  Perhaps a few more details could be coaxed out of the
> > orange.
> > > >
> > > > Exactly so! Although I didn't keep a copy of the original, I'm
> > > > sure it didn't have such clipped red channel in the oranges.
> > > >
> > > > Certainly detail has clearly been lost, but more obvious at first
> > > > glance is the color shift. When one channel clips, the balance of
> > > > the three channels changes. Here, look at the difference between
> > > > the color inside and outside of the poppies.
> > > > They aren't just brighter in the parts in direct, high altitude
> > > > sun, but a different color tone. Those poppies have very thin
> > > > leaves, same color on each side, at any given point.
> > > >
> > > > What's been done to add some pop/life/energy has worked very well
> > > > in all other ways. If I were doing that in PS, it would be LCE,
> > > > then Curves, but beforehand, Some pulling down of top highlights,
> > > > then a modest decrease in brightness and, if there are shadows
> > > > details to retain, lower contrast, too.
> > > >
> > > > Then the LCE shouldn't clip the red highlights. Although I usually
> > > > hit the brightness/contrast on the first try, I always check the
> > > > histogram after LCE, and go back to adjust if necessary.
> > > > I assume most of this could be done in LR, but I don't know what
> > > > the equivalent sliders in LR may be.
> > > >
> > > > If things are too extreme, though, I might well select all the
> > > > oranges and create a separate layer or series of layers for
> > > > treating the oranges differently than the rest of the image. That
> > > > might just work here, by simply keeping the 'pop'
> > > > processing off the poppy blooms. I've done that with success on
> > > > bright yellow-orange-red flowers in direct sun.
> > > >
> > > > This is getting really close to a great image, Bob.
> > > >
> > > > Orange Layered Moose
> > > >
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