Thanks to Moose and the rest of you for a very nice, useful discussion this
image sparked.
My own conclusion is that I prefer the cropping as I presented it (which is no
crop), but will make some adjustments along the lines proposed by Moose.
Cheers,
Nathan
Nathan Wajsman
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On Jan 24, 2011, at 5:11 AM, Moose wrote:
> On 1/21/2011 9:58 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>> Thanks Moose, you are right, I should do some work on the image.
>
> Glad to be of assistance!
>
> On 1/22/2011 5:29 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>> I didn't comment on the original because I found the stark contrast between
>> shadowed subject and blown background hard on my eyes. I literally had a
>> hard time viewing it. Consequently, I heartily approve of the Moosterized
>> version. As with some things Moosterized they may go a bit too far. This
>> may qualify as one of those but I'm unsure having to view it on the Krappy
>> Kolor laptop.
>
> Glad you liked it! I often go at least a bit farther than others might,
> probably farther than I would go for final
> display. Especially when working on something requiring considerable work, I
> like to find the outside edge of what can
> be done with it without gettin' weird or falling apart. One may always
> imagine something less, whereas it's perhaps
> harder to imagine more from a conservative example.
>
> In this case, the contrast between the original and revision was so great
> that I could hardly stand to view a rollover,
> which is why I didn't show it that way.
>
> On 1/23/2011 5:53 AM, Bob Whitmire wrote:
>> Liked the original, like this one mucho better.
>
> Thanks Bob!
>
> On 1/23/2011 4:52 PM, Ken Norton wrote:
>> I am going to go against the flow here. I actually like the original better,
>> because it places the subject within an environment. This environment, which
>> is somewhat masked by the blown out highlights as well as the
>> out-of-focusness, draws me in wanting to study and understand the setting,
>> but not explore it too deeply. This careful
>> balancing act of environment and mystery brings me back to the main subject.
>
> I may surprise you by largely agreeing with you. The subject and composition
> are interesting, and do put him in a
> specific context. 'Twere mine, I would still bring him up some, and the
> bright background down, although certainly not
> as much as I did. As with Chuck, I find it hard to really see the man, so
> dark against the bright background. Some of
> that may be simple brightness of our different screens. I color profile mine
> and set brightness where all the steps of
> those B&W steps are as visible as possible and balanced around the center,
> but I'm not sure that's a guarantee.
>
>> The cropped, processed version dictates the viewing too much. As a portrait,
>> the Moosified version is better.
>
> Thanks, as that was the intent of my exercise. I always like a challenge, and
> the high contrast and deeply shadowed face
> intrigued me. But what got me going was Nathan's comment on how hard it is to
> get a picture of his F-I-L. A F-I-L I much
> loved died a few years ago, and I am so very glad that I caught a many good
> shots of him, including a couple of portrait
> style. My parents are both dead, and I'm both glad to have decent portraits
> of them and with I had a couple more. When
> they're gone, they're gone.
>
> So when I saw in this image the potential for a pretty nice portrait through
> post and cropping, I felt I had to mention
> the possibility to Nathan and aid imagination with an imperfect, but
> indicative example.
>
>> But in the format of the informal portrait, I prefer the original.
>
> Yup, as above.
>
> Manipulative Moose
>
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