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Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 30/12/2010: the Puerto Rico that few tourists see

Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 30/12/2010: the Puerto Rico that few tourists see
From: John Hermanson <omtech1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:12:17 -0500
Ground and Scraped?  Mechanically separated chicken is "okay for human 
consumption"  according to the FDA but not for beef due the risk of 
spreading mad cow disease.

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On 1/6/2011 9:56 AM, Bill Pearce wrote:
> So what eupohemism is used on the label? Ground beef?
>
>
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> From: John Hermanson [mailto:omtech1@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 7:08 AM
> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
> Subject: Re: [OM] Nathan's PAD 30/12/2010: the Puerto Rico that few tourists
> see
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> You won't see it labeled as such because the "food" lobby is very
> persuasive ($) in keeping such regulations from being created.  Check
> out these links.>
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/04/mechanically-separated-meat-chicken
> -mcnugget-photo_n_749893.html
>
>>
> http://www.salon.com/food/francis_lam/2010/10/07/mechanically_separated_chic
> ken
>
>> http://www.boingboing.net/2010/10/04/mechanically-separat.html
>
> It is quite toxic, so first ammonia is added to kill the bacteria, THEN
> artificial flavoring is added.
>
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> On 1/5/2011 9:25 AM, Bill Pearce wrote:
>> Where does one see this? I certainly haven't seen anything labeled
>> like that in a store. I understood that stuff went to processors so I
>> suppose it could be available in prepared ready to cook sstuff in
>> places like Sams Club, but I have a friend that deals in meat, mainly
>> trimmings that go to a major manufacturer of deli meats. He has said
>> that there is no such thing as safe hamburger, by the way, unless you
>> grind it yourself.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Jez Cunningham [mailto:jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday,
>> January 05, 2011 2:33 AM To: Olympus Camera Discussion Subject: Re:
>> [OM] Nathan's PAD 30/12/2010: the Puerto Rico that few tourists see
>>
>>
>>
>> Choice also requires a bit of intelligence and understanding of
>> what's on offer.  The fact that this crap can be called something
>> innocuous can be misleading.  Who'd have thought mechanically
>> recovered beef trimmings could be labelled:
>>
>> Finely Textured Beef (FTB), Lean Finely Textured Beef (LFTB), Premium
>> Black Angus<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_cattle>   Finely
>> Textured Beef (PBAFTB), Angus Finely Textured Beef (AFTB), Beef
>> Trimmings, Finely Textured (BTFT) and Partially Defatted Chopped Beef
>> (PDCB)
>>
>>
>> Jez, enjoying his 99c Big Crap Menu for breakfast
>>
>> On 5 January 2011 06:07, Moose<olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>   wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/4/2011 5:38 PM, Bill Pearce wrote:
>>>> That it allows many of the poor to eat high quality protein, at
>>>> least if
>>> they choose to, seems to me to be a good thing.
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, the way in which most is prepared, high fat,
>>>> sodium, etc.
>>> isn't so hot for them. I thought the phrase "at least if they
>>> choose to" would be self explanatory. These less expensive
>>> alternative meat products are also available outside of the fast
>>> food world. Those with limited funds who choose to do so may
>>> prepare them themselves in less problematic ways.
>>>
>>> Moose
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