Seems no. Meanwhile, there is no used Horseman 612 film back in the market
since many Chinese photographer got it once available :(
I'll keep on trying to find an used one before I will to pay for a new one
...........
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Michael
On 21 August 2010 20:56, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Can you rent one?
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> Michael Wong wrote:
> > Chuck,
> > I readlly do not know the reason. Anyway, I hope I can find a good option
> of
> > 612 film back. I have asked a shop that a new Horseman 612 filmback will
> be
> > over HK$5,000 .......... 612 is not my major shots, HK$5,000 is very
> > expensive :(
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > On 21 August 2010 19:43, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I would assert that the only way your film back can cause a problem is
> >> to leak light. I didn't see anything that looked to me like a light
> leak.
> >>
> >> Chuck Norcutt
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael Wong wrote:
> >>> The procedure is same as to take 4x5 shots except put different film
> back
> >> on
> >>> my machine. After the shot of 612, I put the dark slide into film back
> >> and
> >>> rotate the knob for film advance & then put my 612 film back away from
> my
> >>> machine. I do similar procedure for my 4x5 shots but no problem at all.
> >>> Moreover, I took both 4x5 shots & 612 shots that day but 4x5 shots are
> no
> >>> problem.
> >>>
> >>> I do not think my procedure, my machine, my lens has error to cause the
> >>> color shifting error since the problem didn't appear on 4x5 shots. Is
> it
> >>> film problem? Development error? Or film back problem?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Michael
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 21 August 2010 03:30, Jeff Keller <om-list@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Yes, it also looks to me that the images he posted had the problem
> >>>> "centered" on two adjacent images. He said it was a recurring problem
> >> but
> >>>> if
> >>>> it ALWAYS shows up on adjacent frames, it would seem someone is much
> >> more
> >>>> consistent in what they are doing than I would expect.
> >>>>
> >>>> The film back has a darkslide which must be pulled out to expose the
> >> film.
> >>>> Typically the Chinese made backs use a knob to advance the film until
> >> the
> >>>> next exposure number printed on the back of the film appears in a
> small
> >> red
> >>>> window on the film back. If the dark slide were pulled out when the
> film
> >>>> was
> >>>> half advanced it would be possible to partially expose two adjacent
> >> frames.
> >>>> He said that he had color shifts constantly (but maybe not in the same
> >>>> locations). It's hard to imagine any kind of strictly operator error
> >> that
> >>>> would cause it. If his equipment was faulty, maybe his standard
> >> procedure
> >>>> causes the problem to recur.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeff
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 7:34 AM
> >>>> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
> >>>> Subject: Re: [OM] 612 film back advice is needed.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have no idea how roll film is commercially developed. I was
> >>>> hypothesizing the roll being drawn through the chemicals and getting
> >>>> stuck in one place too long. Totally in my head and without any facts
> >>>> to support me. Regardless, some sort of processing error seems much
> >>>> more real to me than two adjacent images sharing a common defect that
> is
> >>>> visible only on about 1/3 of each image and those areas being adjacent
> >>>> to each other. What in the camera causes a flaw to appear on the
> right
> >>>> third of an image and in the next frame to appear on the left side?
> >>>>
> >>>> So far no one has even commented that they see this adjacent image
> >>>> problem. Am I imagining it?
> >>>>
> >>>> Chuck Norcutt
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Bill Pearce wrote:
> >>>>> Those sorts of flaws, where it's not consistently across the entire
> >> roll,
> >>>>> are rarely a processing error. Color shifts in the image from side to
> >>>> side?
> >>>>> How can that be a processing error. The only thing I've ever seen in
> >>>> years
> >>>>> of processing would be a light strike in a machine, but those are
> very
> >>>> very
> >>>>> rare these days, unless you are having film processed at a drugstore
> or
> >>>>> somewhere like that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bill Pearce
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 7:29 AM
> >>>>> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [OM] 612 film back advice is needed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I haven't seen anyone comment yet on my diagnosis of a film
> processing
> >>>>> error. The was predicated on two successive and supposedly adjacent
> >>>> images
> >>>>> showing the same failure... one on the right side and the other on
> the
> >>>> left.
> >>>>> The implication is that, whatever the cause, it crossed over two
> >> adjacent
> >>>>> images. If it happened in-camera it would seem that the film would
> >> have
> >>>> had
> >>>>> to be advanced a half frame and allowed to sit there for a while.
> But
> >>>> since
> >>>>> there's a color defect involved all I can suppose is processing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Chuck Norcutt
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brian Swale wrote:
> >>>>>> I've missed a couple of digests so may be behind in ideas on this
> >> topic.
> >>>>>> But it occurred to me that after the first shot on a new roll of
> film,
> >>>>>> the 6 x 12 back could be removed, rotated 180 degrees, and used for
> >> the
> >>>>> second shot.
> >>>>>> Take note of which end was where on the body, each time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Do that for all images and see what pattern (if any) of colour
> defect
> >>>>>> shows up.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Brian Swale.
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