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Re: [OM] Another 3T going cheap........so far

Subject: Re: [OM] Another 3T going cheap........so far
From: Chris Crawford <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:41:10 -0400
That screws up the metering in the OM-1 and it messes up manual metering and
the finder's meter display in auto mode, though auto exposures are still
correct on the OM-2.


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On 7/9/10 3:36 PM, "Rick Beckrich" <rbeckrich@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> A SOLUTION FOR THE BUDGET MINDED
> 
> (At least those of us who can't budget for either a 3 or 4ti)
> Intall a OM 2 series screen or a Beattie in your ON -1n or 2n (or 1 or 2)
>  and you will experience Dawids revalation too.
> 
> Happy with my 1 & 2 "twos"
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Chris Crawford <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> wrote:
> 
>> I've been using a pair of Leica M6 bodies with 35mm and 50mm lenses for a
>> while now. Haven't touched my OM-4T bodies in months.
>> 
>> I know the popular notion is that RF cameras are great for wideangles, but
>> I
>> agree with Dawid that they're not. Leicas have built in finders set up for
>> 28mm or 35mm as the widest focal length (depending on the model you have
>> and
>> what finder options you got), so you need accessory finders for wider
>> lenses. This is a pain because you have to look through the normal finder
>> to
>> focus using the rangefinder, then switch to the accessory finder to compose
>> the photo. For wider lenses, I think an SLR is best and as Dawid said, the
>> 2-series focusing screens in an OM-4T or 3T are incredible.
>> 
>> I actually think that 50mm is the ultimate rangefinder lens. The framelines
>> float in the middle of a large finder allowing you to easily see what's
>> going on outside the frame, and the projected framelines make it easier for
>> me to line up horizontal and vertical lines in buildings to allow me to
>> hold
>> the camera level, something I have a hard time with sometimes with SLRs.
>> 
>> The REAL difference between the OM-4T/3T system and the Leica though is
>> shutter release lag. The mirror in the OM-4/4T/3/3T/2sp bodies is
>> excruciatingly slow moving. I find it near impossible to capture fleeting
>> candid moments with my OM bodies, and have missed literally thousands of
>> shots because of it. The Leica fires INSTANTLY and it has improved my
>> street/candid type photography a million times. Other SLRs are not as bad
>> as
>> the Oms; I have an old Nikon F4 and its near as fast as a Leica, maybe as
>> fast. I have no trouble shooting street with it, but the damned thing is
>> HUGE and HEAVY. The Leicas are huge and heavy enough compared to the OMs,
>> I'm not willing to carry anything bigger. The Shutter lag issue is really
>> the main thing keeping me using my Leicas over my OM-4T bodies now. Its
>> revolutionized my work in a way I never guessed possible, and I normally
>> don't think gear matters that much. The rangefinder has a lot of
>> limitsations. It sucks for wides as Dawid said and it sucks for long
>> lenses.
>> I really think my Leicas work best for 50mm and good/ok for 35mm but that's
>> it. Within that limitation, they can deliver fast action shots better than
>> anything.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
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>> Fine Art Photography
>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> 260-424-0897
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/9/10 1:58 PM, "Dawid Loubser" <dawidl@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 09 Jul 2010, at 7:37 PM, Ken Norton wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> For a while there, I really though life couldn't get better than an
>>>>> OM-1
>>>>> for my needs (an all-manual camera) but boy was I wrong. And it's
>>>>> actually got nothing to do with the multi-spot metering.
>>>> 
>>>> 1/2000, right?
>>> 
>>> 1/2000s is great, yes. But oh my, that viewfinder... There are many
>>> subtle differences between the design of the OM-1/2 viewfinder and
>>> the OM-3/4. OM-1/2 is bigger, yes. But oh my, the 3Ti/4Ti has the most
>>> gorgeous, accurate-focusing, flare-free, bright, crisp viewfinder
>>> ever made by man.
>>> 
>>> And yes, I have looked through a Leica R8/R9 viewfinder before.
>>> A 3Ti/4Ti with 2-series screen offers a viewfinder experience which
>>> is superior in every way for composition and focusing to any other
>>> camera, including rangefinder cameras. It's simply... amazing.
>>> 
>>> I find it funny how one is supposed to be "more accurate" /
>>> "quicker focusing" with wide angles and a rangefinder, but
>>> my 21mm F2 with this viewfinder is simply apparently as bright
>>> as what the subject seems with the naked eye. It's completely
>>> unbelievable. And the "feel" one develops for the focusing through
>>> the ultra-high-resolution focusing screen simply opens possibilities
>>> not possible with any rangefinder.
>>> 
>>> I know I seem very Anti-rangefinder, but I was seriously, seriously
>>> considering an M-series rangefinder with a fast 24mm or 21mm as my
>>> "definitive" 35mm film camera. I tried some out. Verdict: There is
>>> simply no comparison, a 3Ti is superior in every respect except for
>>> greater noise and viewfinder blackout. Those are, simply put, the only
>>> reasons to use a rangefinder in my opinion.
>>> 
>>> The Olympus Wides, especially the 21mm F2, are smaller, more versatile,
>>> vignette less, and 95% optically as good as the Leica M lenses. For
>>> hand-held photography, you will never see a technical difference.
>>> 
>>> The 3Ti has imparted a kind of "ultimate pleasure" in terms of the
>>> OM system to me. I am re-discovering the wonder of the lenses as I
>>> can now, for the first time, truly "see" the excellence and the
>>> character of the lenses through this wonderful viewfinder.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> With auto-exposure, life is a lot simpler and easier. But how a manual
>>>> camera affects me directly is I am constantly monitoring the light and
>>>> seeing what it is doing. This greater awareness of light is
>>>> translating into better pictures because I end up seeing things I
>>>> normaly don't see. Let me try to explain:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Photographer with auto-everything camera sees subject. Photographer
>>>> with auto-everything camera photographs subject.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Photographer with manual camera sees subject. Photographer with
>>>> manual camera sees light. Photographer with manual camera uses light
>>>> as part of the composition which usually requires relocation and/or
>>>> exposure modification. Photographer photographs subject with improved
>>>> light.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 3. Photographer learns that if he uses an incident light meter all the
>>> time,
>>> he gets 100x better at "reading the light" (and ultimately no longer
>>> needing a light meter for 95% of situations) than what any in-camera
>>> meter
>>> will teach him :-)
>>> 
>>> all the best, Ken -
>>> 
>>> Dawid
>> 
>> 
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