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Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] new Canyon 1d Mk
From: "C.H.Ling" <ch_photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:31:08 +0800
The light in your 2nd image looks like came from the "leakage" of your flash 
directly and some reflection off the wall, may be only a very small amount 
is came from  the ceiling. But for indoor I highly recommend to use flash 
bounce off any where possible, the additional light could be very useful. I 
did some with high ceiling too (not as high as your example) with Fujipress 
800 ten years ago with the 100/2, 24/2 and 180/2.8, even with F2 wide open 
it wouldn't work without flash.

http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/f800/f800.htm

C.H.Ling

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: [OM] [OT] new Canyon 1d Mk


>I can tell you that one has to learn to think differently when one has
> workable very high ISO available.  A couple of weeks ago I attended the
> wedding of a friend's daughter which was held in a very large, old stone
> church.  The ceilings were oak paneling about 40 feet up.  I watched the
> two young women doing the photography and at first thought them to be
> nuts.  They were shooting with Canon 5D Mk IIs, 24-70/2.8 IS lenses and
> 580EX II flash units.  I could tell that the flash units were on and
> they appeared to be bouncing the flash off the 40 foot high dark
> ceiling.  I thought they were crazy.  No, more than crazy.  Just plain
> nuts.  Afterall, the light would hardly reach that 40 foot high ceiling
> let alone be reflected back.
>
> But crazy they were not.  After the wedding I spoke to them and
> discovered that they were shooting at ISO 4,000 and very deliberately
> bouncing off the high ceiling.  I don't know what shutter speeds they
> were using but, given the IS lenses I would guess 1/15 to 1/30 second.
> I was so impressed I took my own camera back into the church as the
> people were filing out and took a couple of test shots and duplicated
> the conditions as best I could.  The only lens I had with me was a
> Tamron 24-135/3.5-5.6.  I took two test shots both at ISO 3200, 1/100
> second at f/3.5.  The only difference between them is that one has by
> Canon 540EZ flash bounced at full power off the ceiling.  I was amazed
> at how much additional light showed up.  With their gear they could
> easily have been 2 stops ahead of me.  Here are my samples:
> <http://www.chucknorcutt.com/High%20ISO%20bounce%20flash/index.htm> They
>  are converted from raw just as they were shot.  No exposure
> adjustments and not even any white balance adjustments to correct for
> the daylight setting.  Adding 2 more stops and correct color balance
> would produce excellent images.
>
> I was impressed and realized that I was still mentally stuck with the
> capabilities of ISO 400 film.  :-)
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> AS wrote:
>> What the heck would someone do with ISO 12,800 (extendable to ISO 
>> 102,400)?

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