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Re: [OM] Real world [was More on DOF and focal length (by Ctein)

Subject: Re: [OM] Real world [was More on DOF and focal length (by Ctein)
From: "C.H.Ling" <ch_photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:05:14 +0800
Thanks for Chuck and siddiq looking, glad to hear you like them, 5144 is my 
most favorite one even it violated the DOF rule.

C.H.Ling


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <siddiq@xxxxxxx>


> this one in particular, I like a lot:
>
> http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/90F2A/IMG_5140.html
>
> On Jul 2, 2009, at 12:42 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>
>> I like the four monochrome green images.  I don't think I've ever shot
>> one of just foliage that I liked.
>>
>> Chuck Norcutt
>>
>> C.H.Ling wrote:
>>> Although I complained about the bokeh of 90/2 in some situations
>>> but it is
>>> still a great lens. The color/tonal rendering is probably the best
>>> among all
>>> Zuikos I have used, that's why it have greater 3D look. I don't
>>> remember the
>>> images Giles posted but I can assure the 90/2 has this special
>>> quality.
>>>
>>> 80/4 and 90/2 are two different animals, 80/4 is designed for 1:2
>>> to 2:1,
>>> the images I just posted are all 1:1 shots, I don't find any
>>> overlap on
>>> them. I seldom use the 80/4 as it was mainly for insects but I was
>>> too lazy
>>> in these few years, it need lots of patience for finding insects.
>>>
>>> I hope below can balance out the 90/2 fans feel :-)
>>>
>>> Shot on June 24. Also, the aim was accompany my elder son for a photo
>>> session so only did a few shots.
>>>
>>> http://www.accura.com.hk/OM/OMC/90F2A/90F2A.html
>>>
>>> C.H.Ling
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joel Wilcox"
>>>
>>> This will raise the usual statements of denigration with respect to
>>> the 90/2, but I believe it was Giles Stewart, once the list mum (?),
>>> who posted comparison images of the 80 and 90 which to my eyes showed
>>> a greater 3D realism to the rendering by the 90/2.  As a result I
>>> have
>>> never yearned for the 80 and instead keep the 135 permanently on the
>>> tubes.
>>>
>>> The comparison image was raindrops on a windshield IIRC, and not
>>> really in the macro realm, whereas Ling's images appear to be in the
>>> 1:10 and closer range, where other qualities may be emerging that
>>> favor the 80.  I should add that nothing about the 80 seemed bad,
>>> just
>>> that the 90 version was a wow to my eyes.
>>>
>>> I don't know if Ling remembers Giles' comparison images, but I think
>>> his experience with the lenses has always seemed to favor the 80 over
>>> the 90, so I suspect like any good Zuik you'll have to have them both
>>> and see for yourself.
>>>
>>> As for me lately, I've been experimenting with both the 85/2 and
>>> 135/2.8 with 7mm tube for close focusing.  Haven't sent the film off
>>> yet, but I recall John Lind got very nice results especially with the
>>> 85/2 plus bit of extension.
>>>
>>> So many lovely ways to skin the cat.
>>>
>>> Joel W.

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