Not too late at all, jump right in. The water is nice.
Sorry you had such a bad salesman experience. Did he happen
to have an Oz accent?
They must have toned down their approach as the sales person
in NY was very cordial and friendly, with no sales pitch. It is true
that Peter Lik pioneered some of the early versions of the Fujifilm
printing process, but I'm pretty sure it is the crystal archive pearl
paper, and it does have silver halide crystals. And it is true that
Fuji installed the system.
Personally, there are a lot folks on this list who could probably shoot
just as good a shot if they had the money, equipment and time to
pursue it. I admire him for going out and doing it, but it is a business
and depends on making sales. Now that he is established, the work
is carrying it, but I personally would not pay $5-75K for some of his
work. I'd rather go make my own shots and get them printed
There must be some printer services that could do that?
Peter's secret is simply being there with a good camera and film
and knowing how to expose it well. I was actually surprised by
one shot as I did not think it all that great, at least compared to
some similar shots I have made. I just didn't us a 6x17 camera.
And of course, having an obese camera and ego helps a lot.
Wayne
At 12:54 PM 1/24/2009, you wrote:
>I am late in replying to this, and no doubt in well over my head when it
>comes to the technicalities you all discuss with such ease.
>However, I wanted to tell you that we were in Vegas about 3 years ago,
>and had the pleasure/discomfort of perusing his gallery and being
>kidnapped in a back room for the hard sell. We almost bought one, but
>couldn't figure a way to get it home without breaking the bank, and so
>we asked if we could please have the salesman's email so we could
>discuss it further after we had returned home, measured the location
>where we would put the large panorama print, and determined how best to
>ship it. He looked us in the eye (after the hour long private hard sell
>and private showing of many prints), curled his lip and sneered with
>disgust "Why? You'll never email me. Just be honest, I'll never hear
>from you again." Obviously he lost that sale and we told him so.
>
>Anyhow, the thing of note that I've not seen anyone mention in the posts
>here, is the salesman tried very hard to convince us and show us how the
>printing of Peter Lik's prints is so very different and copyrighted. It
>would seem the salesman wanted to liken it to the effect we hear about
>with the Thomas Kinkade (spelling?) paintings. According to the
>salesman, Peter Lik has a contract with (I believe the salesman said)
>Fuji. At the time the story went like this: Peter Lik and Fuji (if that
>is the correct company) entered into a contractual agreement whereby
>Peter Lik would be the only photographer to use and trouble shoot a new
>printing technique. We were told there were actual ground up crystals in
>teeny tiny particles in the print ink, enabling the print to reflect
>light and have that glowing luminous effect that is often associate with
>Thomas Kinkade. I have no way of knowing if that information is factual,
>but it is what we were told in great lengthy tedious detail. We were
>mainly interested in some of his photography taken just a few miles from
>where we live.
>
>Don't know if that has any impact on the discussion or not.
>Candace
>
>
>Paul wrote:
>> Just walked out of Lik's gallery at the Forum Shops at Caesar's in
>> Vegas.
>>
>> I continue to be amazed by his almost freakish mastery of dynamic
>> range, DOF, and color.
>>
>> I need to do some research, just out if curiousity, into what he
>> shhots with.
>>
>
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