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Re: [OM] Hypocrites are us - OFFTOPIC

Subject: Re: [OM] Hypocrites are us - OFFTOPIC
From: "Charles Geilfuss" <charles.geilfuss@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:51:09 -0500
  Is that for Roo's Andrew?

Charlie

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Andrew Fildes <afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Sounds close to what's called 'push-polling' - a technique used to
> encourage a positive response, rather than gather information.
> At this point I would like to express my appreciation to Macdonalds
> for establishing the feedlot system in Australia....
> Andrew Fildes
> afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> On 19/11/2008, at 5:38 AM, Ken Norton wrote:
>
> > Offtopic - you have been warned....
> >
> > Last night we got a call at the house from somebody doing a
> > survey.  Ok, no
> > problem, I didn't have anything else to do while preparing
> > supper...  The
> > survey was being conducted for some organization that is promoting the
> > expansion of high-density beef/hog/poultry operations here in Iowa.
> > Hmm....  Over the past few years there has been a marked change in my
> > outlook towards farming practices, even though I was less than
> > pleased to
> > have my suppertime interrupted, I thought about the opportunity to
> > let my
> > voice be heard.
> >
> > I answered all the questions based on the following criteria:  1.
> > Runoff
> > pollution is the #1 problem, and 2. High-density operations are
> > ripe for
> > rampant disease.  It irritated me to no end that the questions
> > being asked
> > were 'biased' and attempted to encourage answers supportive of the
> > industry's dangerous practices.  (if you don't believe runoff
> > pollution is
> > an issue, just ask Joel Wilcox what his house was like after the
> > flood).
> > After the third biased question, my mind was made up as to how I
> > was going
> > to answer all the rest of the questions. (I did take advantage of
> > the fact
> > that a few of the questions allowed free-form answers).
> >
> > 18 minutes into the survey (my wife was getting rather
> > entertained), the
> > question about political affiliation came up.  "Are you a Democrat or
> > Republican?"  Neither--I'm a registered Green.  "Independant?"  No,
> > Green.
> > (pause)  "Ok, found it."  At that point I knew my survey was going
> > to get
> > tossed out, but I knew what the next question was going to be.
> > "Zipcode
> > where you live?"  I gave my zipcode.  (pause)  "That's wierd, we
> > weren't
> > supposed to call that zipcode."
> >
> > I live in Grinnell, home of Grinnell College, one of the most liberal
> > locations in the country.  A survey FOR the livestock industry
> > isn't going
> > to get encouraging numbers from my zipcode.
> >
> > Shortly after that the survey ended and I proceeded to eat my steak
> > which I
> > was grilling while taking the survey.
> >
> > AG
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