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Subject: [OM] Re: Comparison shots
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:21:06 -0400
That should have said:  (see image A at 100%, THE shape of the heads of 
the group of children in the foreground AT LEFT)

Chuck Norcutt

Chuck Norcutt wrote:
> I agree.  B is the Portra scan and A is from the E-510 and 14-54. 
> Ignoring Nathan's practical comments about which picture the mothers 
> will prefer and dealing only with technical image quality issues:
> A is to be preferred for sharpness and saturation. I think B is 
> undersaturated relative to the original scene but nevertheless probably 
> closer to the original... which is what Portra NC attempts to do.  A 
> (the 14-54) still shows some distortion not shown by the 50mm Mamiya 
> (see image A at 100%, shape of the heads of the group of children in the 
> foreground).  The 50mm did a better job in that respect but PTLens could 
> probably improve the 14-54 shot with a proper profile.  B is not only 
> undersaturated but under sharpened.  The image improves considerably 
> after applying some LCE and more sharpening.  I think the Portra shot 
> could be made to at least equal the 510 shot (if not surpass it) with an 
> improved scan (on the same scanner) and post processing.
> 
> But it does make you wonder why one would haul around an RB-67 and go to 
> all this labor and expense when (for modest size prints at least) one 
> gets a very good result nearly straight out of the 510 and at far lower 
> cost.
> 
> Chuck Norcutt
> 
> 
> James R wrote:
>> B is definitely the scan - the colours are a bit off, especially the  
>> reds, and it reminds me of how frustrating scanning is. Does Vuescan  
>> still have all those weird film types and none of the ones that you  
>> might actually use?
>>
>> A looks better but, ignoring the limited attention of the subjects, I  
>> wonder if the same would be true if you looked at a print from the neg?
>>
>> James
>>
>> On 1 Nov 2008, at 05:13, Wayne Harridge wrote:
>>
>>> http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/images/group-a.jpg
>>>
>>> http://lrh.structuregraphs.com/images/group-b.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> One of these images:
>>>
>>> Olympus E-510, 14-42mm @14mm, ISO 400, 1/125, f8
>>>
>>> the other:
>>>
>>> Mamiya RB-67 Pro-S, 50mm, Portra 400NC, 1/125, f8, scanned (vuescan)
>>> @2400dpi on Epson V700, some adjustment to colour balance & contrast.
>>>
>>> Both images had perspective correction as I was shooting from the  
>>> top of a
>>> 2m step ladder, cropping, resize to 2400 wide and same basic  
>>> sharpening
>>> before uploading to the site.
>>>
>>> Ok, so which image is E-510 ?
>>> Which one do you prefer ?  (whatever your criteria happens to be)
>>> Why ?
>>>
>>> ...Wayne
>>>
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