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Subject: [OM] Re: HDR? [was] Digital Black and White
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:13:02 -0400
You lost me here.  Explain: "I simply set ACRS to retain all the
detail in the RAW file within the output range. I then processed that
one image as usual."

Chuck Norcutt

Moose wrote:
> AG Schnozz wrote:
>>> Interesting article here:
>>> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/ 
>>> 2007/08/digital-bw-the-.html
>>>     
>> I read that article and a couple things caught my eye.  #1, he admits
>> that it's still a work in progress in he hasn't reached nirvana yet. 
>> #2, the process is really convoluted to get these types of digital
>> B&W images.
>>   
> I wish to take exception to one thing in the link that started this thread.
> ---------------------------------------------
> 
> "Although it was not something I was especially looking for when I first 
> bought...., its increased dynamic range in color work was the most 
> apparent improvement over 35mm slide film. ..., but the estimated three 
> stops more dynamic range that RAW files gave me over slide film was an 
> unexpected revelation....
> 
> All this was apparent immediately, using single exposures in RAW, but 
> making multiple adjustments of that one file for highlights, midtones 
> and shadows, that were then combined in Photoshop with adjustment layers 
> and layer masks."
> ----------------------------------------------
> 
> I have read this idea in several places and have explored the 
> possibilities. I have come to the firm conclusion that this extra effort 
> is never necessary if you convert to 16 bit and work in 16 bit.
> 
> I think it is a result of not knowing how to use ACRS to control and 
> maintain dynamic range. I've made a little example. This little 
> waterfall with cave beneath combines direct sun Summer on falling water 
> with the depth of a cave at the bottom of a small canyon - a pretty wide 
> dynamic range. Simply converting it using the ACRS defaults gives blown 
> highlights and lost shadow detail. Rather than do two more conversions 
> at higher and lower exposures, I simply set ACRS to retain all the 
> detail in the RAW file within the output range. I then processed that 
> one image as usual.
> http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/tech/Process/hdrq/hdr1.htm
> 
> For the moment, don't argue with my personal choice of tonalities, I did 
> what I did in the rock face, even clipping some shadows intentionally, 
> for the dramatic effect I wanted there.  Look at the tonal detail in the 
> highlights, for example in the tree leaves, and shadows, as in the cave 
> depths. They are simply all that is in the RAW file, I've looked, and 
> don't require all that extra fussing around with multiple conversions.
> 
> So this guy may be a pro in that he sells his stuff, but he's an amateur 
> who doesn't know all his tools in ACRS/PS, is doing something the hard 
> way, and advocating that others work too hard, as well.
> 
> Moose
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