Lol....well after having to learn Photoshop, InDesign, QuarkXpress,
Illustrator, Vuescan, and Nikon Capture (I have historically made more money
as a graphic designer than as a photographer) it wasn't much more work to
add Dreamweaver to the mix! But I see your point. Dreamweaver isn't very
intuitive and I actually think that Frontpage is harder to use! I've never
tried Pagemill tho. Web design is a lot different, from a technical
standpoint, than print design (and Photoshop is basically a print design
program that can also do cool stuff to photos), so if you've learned
Photoshop or other print design programs (eg. Illustrator, Quark, etc) then
there's a learning curve that's a lot higher than going from, say, Photoshop
to InDesign.
Web design's become a good business for me though, this month I set up two
websites and I continue to do the day-to-day work of adding to a large
online store who's website I designed last year. I've made more money this
year as a web designer than I did from photography and print design
combined...not bad for something I learned as a side project to avoid paying
someone to setup a photo website for me (back then, 5 yrs ago, I don't think
Pbase or Flickr existed, did they?)
--
Chris Crawford
Photography & Graphic Design
Santa Fe, New Mexico
http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com
http://www.plumpatrin.com Something the world NEEDS.
On 5/17/07 2:16 AM, "Andrew Fildes" <afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Well - pbase costs me $24 a year and unlike Slackr it allows me to
> play games with pages so that I can use it as a de facto basic web
> site. My earlier attempts to nut out Pagemill and Dreamweaver left me
> in a corner, foetal positon and gibbering so this does me. The fact
> that it will accept html which I can cheerfully nick from elsewhere
> and will allow me to set up text only pages so long as I key them
> with a jpeg or gif thumbnail as a button works well for me. I create
> a page using a simple database page and I can test it instantly. I
> could prolly force it to do more but I can't be bloody bothered to
> learn the stuff.
> My ISP would host me a site for free but frankly I wouldn't trust the
> average ISP to host a stray cat overnight. They don't seem to employ
> many humans. Pbase has been reliable, reasonably cheap and they keep
> bumping up my capacity at no extra charge. I can add a couple of
> pages in a quite evening if I so wish. I don't need any more,
> especially throbbers, daft animations and all the other bandwidth
> consuming movement and colour crap I see these days.
> Don't tell me to go learn a decent program as I already know that -
> my brane's full and I don't want to shift too much old stuff out at
> present. Anyway, I'm saving what little remaining neural connectivity
> I have left for learning some Wittgenstein and Rawls rather than
> 'this way up' programming.
>
> Ricoh GX100 this week with the tiny TV monitor and the 19mm
> converter. Lotsa fun for street shooting.
> Andrew Fildes
> afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> On 17/05/2007, at 11:44 AM, Chris Crawford wrote:
>
>> I agree. Not just about Flickr, but also Pbase and all the other photo
>> hosting sites. All of them look crappy. Its so easy and cheap to
>> have your
>> own website today, why bother with having your work on someone
>> else's site?
>> I've had a website for 5 years, it has actually gotten cheaper over
>> the
>> years as webhosting fees have gone down a lot in that time. I now
>> pay $13 a
>> month to host 5 websites. I have two, and am hosting one for my
>> father and
>> the other two are used by paying clients who pay me more for
>> hosting in
>> total between the two of them than I'm paying for all five sites I
>> host!
>
>
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