One other thing, in our posts of misunderstandings, it isn't deciding to
support my government that is the loyalty issue, I am not loyal to my
representatives when they blatantly do not represent us.
The treason isn't on my side, treason is betrayal after trust.
I am not loyal to a representative that isn't representing me, that would be
Nationalistic, following without reason or rhyme, just because he is the
leader, right or wrong, by hook, crook or honesty.
My country has a constitution and bill of rights that are mine to defend and
if my government strays from it, I should then support them in breaking the
laws of the land? I should be loyal to those that are committing treason?
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Andrew Fildes
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:00 PM
To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [OM] Re: lighting again Re: Re: Communications [was lighting]
As I said the last time that this was posted (about a week ago), this
is a remarkably dangerous principle. In a democracy, the government
IS the people - that's the ideal anyway. If it isn't - that's what
elections are for.
Deciding to withdraw your allegiance simply because you have decided
that your government has not deserved your loyalty on some pretext
leads to treason. You can't decide to support your government only
when you agree with it - loyalty is a much more complex political
concept. That's why Britain has the concept of a 'loyal opposition',
a nice principle.
Of course, if you object to democracy itself, because your side lost,
you may choose to agree with Sam.
Andrew Fildes
afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
On 16/03/2007, at 6:25 AM, Scott Peden wrote:
> There's a tag line that isn't popular with my government...
> probably though
> my whole life time, come to think of it.
> "Patriotism means being loyal to
> your country all the time and to
> its government when it deserves
> it." -- Mark Twain
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