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Subject: [OM] Re: Which lens would you choose
From: Richard Ociepka <ociepka@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 11:19:10 -0500
I have a Tokina SD 35-200mm Macro f/4-5.6 with red line and red double 
tilde. No RMC.
I remember paying $200 for this 30 years ago.
They called it the Tokina Mini.

Dick


Scott Peden wrote:
> I have the Tokina wit the red tilde and the RMC, so that boils down to just
> fancy salesmanship for a Multi coated lens.
> 
> Thanks for the extra data and history, means that bit of knowledge is likely
> to 'stick' as I have more reality on what it means and WHY, me being the
> sort of person that is either 100% Why or, just let me drive it, OK?
> 
> Of to Monterey Bay Aquarium!
> 
> Pic to follow! (I hope there is something good enough to post :-)
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Moose
> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 1:27 AM
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> Subject: [OM] Re: Which lens would you choose
> 
> Scott Peden wrote:
>> I have RMC on a Tokina 28 mm 1:2.8
>>
>> I too would be interested to know if that is a standard designation that
> is
>> a step up from a MC.
>>   
> No. When multi-coating started, the major camera manufacturers mostly 
> just so labeled their lenses, first often spelled out, then often 
> becoming simply MC.
> 
> Pentax and some of the independent lens makers used their onw special 
> designations, essentially, one assumes, as marketing . So the Pentax 
> 50/1.4, for example, first became the SUPER-MULTI-COATED TAKUMAR, THEN 
> THE SMC TAKUMAR. Oly went the low key, way, adding simply MC and later, 
> when it could be assumed all lenses were multi-coated, dropped even that 
> designation.
> 
> Tokina's version of the MC label was RMC and a little red logo sort of 
> like a top and bottom tilde with two vertical lines connecting them. 
> This came before the AT-X (Advanced Technology) line of lenses. When 
> AT-X came along, there was nothing in the manuals, at least the ones I 
> have, about RMC, but the label and logo remained on the front ring of 
> the lenses.
> 
> The other lovely confusing thing is new optical glasses. Some called 
> them ED, Extra low Dsispersion, SD, Super low Dispersion, etc., and 
> sometimes indicated their presence with thin color bands on the lenses. 
> So most of the AT-X Tokinas have a thin red line near the front, but 
> wait a minute, at least two SZ-X series Tokinas are RMC with logo on the 
> front ring and have the red ring and SD glass. And there are AT-Xs with 
> yellow rings, instead of red, and ... aaaahh.
> 
> It's essentially impossible to tell what's in many MF lenses unless you 
> have the manual or can read tea leaves. But generally, any marking 
> including "MC" means multi-coated and any littel colored ring near the 
> front means some sort of then new glass formula in  most often one element.
> 
> In the end, it matters little, all but the very earliest zooms ar MC, 
> for the simple reason that MC is required for the many element designs 
> to avoid unacceptable light loss. And you can pretty much rely on the 
> Tamron SP (Super Performance), Tokina AT-X and Sigma APO as being their 
> best lenses. There are others in their lines that are good, but those 
> lines aren't uniformly so.
> 
> Unfortunately, even that isn't always a clear indication of the best 
> lenses in any line. Gary's tests and the Cult classics site agree that 
> the pre AT-X Tokina RMC 28-85 zoom is slightly superior in performance 
> to the AT-X that came next, but the AT-X is smaller, .lighter and 
> focuses closer. So which is the better lens? Depends on what is most 
> important to the user.
> 
> The most useful single source of info about all this is the Cult 
> Classics site <http://medfmt.8k.com/third/index.html>. Gary's lens tests 
> are also often useful, as he tested many third party MF lenses for OM 
> mount <http://members.aol.com/olympusom/lenstests/default.htm>.
> 
> Moose
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