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[OM] Re: [OT] The Do's and Don'ts of apostrophe placement

Subject: [OM] Re: [OT] The Do's and Don'ts of apostrophe placement
From: "Tom Fenwick" <super.wide@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:01:16 +0100
I have read both Ian and Walt's contributions and while not happy with the
former I'm not totally convinced by the latter.  However, latterly I've
learned caution, so will leave this for later...

Meanwhile this may help those concerned only with usage.

Tom

On 07/09/06, Piers Hemy <piers@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> I'm with Walt - his examples are well chosen to be precise, and as usual
> straight to the point with a twinkle in his eye - can't do better, but I
> can
> try this high-risk approach:
>
> "later" = "senare"
> but
> "latter" = "[det] andra [förslag]"
> and "former" (the opposite of "latter") = "[det] första [förslag]".
>
> Conceivably, "latter" could also mean "[det] sista [av många förslag]".
>
> And then there is "latterly" = "nufötiden" in contrast to "long ago" =
> "länge sedan"
>
> High-risk?  We have plenty of opportunities to pick on non-native users of
> English - time to give them a chance to get their own back :-)
>
> --
> Piers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:olympus-owner@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Walt Wayman
> Sent: 07 September 2006 14:59
> To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [OM] Re: [OT] The Do's and Don'ts of apostrophe placement
>
> Well, let me get my pointy pedant hat on and give it a go.
>
> "Later" is an adverb, meaning at some time subsequent to a given time, as
> in, "See ya later, alligator."
>
> "Latter" is an adjective, meaning belonging to a subsequent time, as in
> something being later than something else.
>
> Example: If I arrive late to a meeting and you come in later than I do,
> then
> you would be the latter of the late arrivals.
>
> Luckily, I don't work for a publisher of dictionaries. That's about the
> best
> I can do. Maybe somebody else will come up with something better later,
> and
> then the latter explanation will be more better.
>
> Walt
>
> --
> "Anything more than 500 yards from
> the car just isn't photogenic." --
> Edward Weston
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Johan Malmstrom <jmalmstrom@xxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> > 6 sep 2006 kl. 20.14 skrev Walt Wayman:
> >
> > > And to whom it may concern: "advise" is a verb; "advice" is a noun,
> > > the result of having the verb aimed and fired at one. I would advise
> > > everyone to use them properly, which I think is good advice.
> >
> >
> > Thanks Walt. I'll try to remember that advice. I can't remember any
> > teacher saying that. Thanks.
> >
> > And if any one could clarify "later" vs. "latter" that would make my
> > day.
> >
> > / Johan - who struggles to see life in full colour :)
> >
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