Excellent point. Specific, and topical. Journalism, photo, or
written, should deal with "object facts." Photo insertions are indeed
lies.
JHW
On Oct 2, 2005, at 10:58 PM, Winsor Crosby wrote:
>
> I don't think that either of you was going as a journalist to
> document the country, but taking pictures of things you encountered
> that pleased you about the place. I don't think there is any lie of
> omission in that. The goal of travel photography is different. As a
> viewer of photographs I think you have to take into account the place
> you find the pictures. A traveling friend is going to show you
> pictures of things that made him enthusiastic about his trip. You
> would expect something else from a journalist documenting a stated
> aspect of a country or event.
>
> Interestingly discussion keeps talking about cropping and omission of
> detail that changes the import of the picture. The article also
> included the additional element of a clenched fist that was inserted
> and not in the original. That goes beyond the genteel term of
> omission and is just falsification and a blatant lie. Photoshop is
> returning us to the era before photography when newspapers were
> illustrated by artists who did what they were told. Just something to
> grab the attention for the article and to match the sense of the
> article.
>
>
>
> Winsor
> Long Beach, California, USA
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 2, 2005, at 6:52 PM, iddi wrote:
>
>
>>
>> On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:34:25 -0700, Andrew Dacey <adacey@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> <snipp>
>>
>>
>>
>>> How about a less politically charged example of how we do this?
>>> For my
>>> colour photo class that I took in the summer I printed a number of
>>> photographs from my travels in Vietnam. My teacher liked my stuff
>>> but
>>> one criticism he had was that he knew that Vietnam was a very
>>> crowded
>>> country but that none of my shots conveyed that reality. My shots
>>> all
>>> portrayed very quiet scenes that seemed very serene and
>>> contemplative.
>>> This is a fairly accurate indication of the process I went through
>>> and
>>> part of the emotion I was feeling when taking the shots but that is
>>> not the reality of what you see 90% of the time in Vietnam. In terms
>>> of presenting what Vietnam is like I was only presenting a very
>>> small
>>> portion of it. By omitting the rest my "lie of omission" is to
>>> suggest
>>> that all of Vietnam is like that instead of just a small portion.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I understand perfectly; my photos taken in India two years ago, I
>> made a
>> conscious choice not to portray the typical images of poverty. For
>> example:
>>
>> http://users2.ev1.net/~wesiddiquis/india/pages/trash.html
>>
>> was taken after a person done looking for food through it. A very
>> strong
>> image, but one I was not comfortable with.
>>
>>
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