Royal flypasts and PR
Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Earl Dunbar" <edunbar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [OM] OT photo ops
And what is the purpose of flying one bird with no passengers?
Earl
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On 10/15/2003 at 9:49 PM Julian Davies wrote:
>Airbus have the type certificate, and have given notice of their
>withdrawal
>from supporting the aircraft. Without their active support, the type
>certificate is revolked, and the individual certificates of airworthiness
>of
>the aircraft themselves are worthless.
>This is what grounded the BA fleet in 2000. Air France persuaded the GCAC
>(french equivalent of the CAA / FAA) to revolke the type certificate (it's
>the aircraft, not our crappy maintenance or poor runway inspection regime
>that's to blame), so BA had no choice, despite not sharing the risks
>(better
>tyres - Dunlops - and not retreads like the AF ones). The GCAC then
>insisted
>on armour - plating of the tanks and the fitting of Michelin (oh where to
>they come from?) tyres before restoring the cert.
>BA are trying to get the type Cert transferred to its own maintenance
>organisation so that they can keep one bird flying (no passengers though).
>
>Julian
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Piers Hemy" <piers@xxxxxxxx>
>To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 1:11 PM
>Subject: Re: [OM] OT photo ops
>
>
>> Jon, continued operation of the aircraft requires more than just
>ownership -
>> it needs the assistance of the manufacturers for technical/engineering
>> support. At the very least, that means spare parts availability. In
>> reality, I suspect it means a much greater range of resources to underpin
>> the airworthiness of Concorde. It is my understanding that BAE Systems
>> and/or Airbus were unwilling to commit scarce technical resources to a
>> flying museum piece (overstated for effect). So BA could deliver on its
>> undertaking to sell the aircraft, but that would not alter the commercial
>> decision by its manufacturers to cease technical support, and effectively
>> cause withdrawal of its certificate of airworthiness.
>>
>> I always liked flying in the Vickers Viscount - a much better view than
>from
>> Concorde!
>>
>> Piers
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:owner-olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Jon Mitchell
>> Sent: 15 October 2003 12:43
>> To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [OM] OT photo ops
>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> --snip
>>
>> When British Airways were given, yes that's GIVEN, the fleet of
>Concorde's
>> by the government (who paid for them), it was with the agreement that if
>> they were to stop the service then they MUST sell the fleet to any
>> interested party for the fee of 1GBP (yes ONE GBP !) for the purposes of
>> continuing the Concorde service. Now granted, the person buying the
>fleet
>> would have some very large costs to keep the service going, but a certain
>> enterprising individual here did actually make the bid. His reasoning
>being
>> that it would make good business sense, and keep a spectacular piece of
>> engineering in the air.
>>
>> Why has this agreement between BA and the government been so swiftly
>swept
>> under the carpet and ignored ? I don't know, but given the way things
>have
>> been going with our current leadership over the last few years - frankly
>it
>> doesn't surprise me.
>>
>>
>>
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