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Subject: Re: [OM] Strange times... (OT)
From: Garth Wood <garth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 07:25:55 -0700
At 09:23 AM 2/7/2003 +0000, Roger Wesson (in response to a whole bunch of others) wrote:

Charles Sdunek wrote:

At 09:45 PM 2/6/03, you wrote:

He gave me some line about how I was taking part in an illegal protest and my presence was a hazard to public safety.

Illegal protest??? assembly, even to protest is our right....so long as it is nonviolent. Boy it ticks off the authorities when people do it though.

Too right they don't like it! The government here tried to prevent an anti-war rally scheduled for Saturday in Hyde Park in London, saying the protest would 'damage the grass'. The organisers threatened to hold the rally in the Mall, outside Buckingham Palace, instead. The government decided Hyde Park's grass would be OK after all.

We really have to keep an eye on the governments we elect!


Part of the reason 'they' dislike it is simple. Regardless of the political leanings (and implied or professed virtue) of the group protesting, any mass rally has the possibility of descending into chaos, violence and brutality because of crowd or herd mentality. No human is immune to it, no matter what their political stripe, and the trigger that moves a crowd from peaceful to violent is often chaotic, and therefore unpredictable in advance. (In this regard, crowd behaviour is a fractal system, which can be 'tipped' from one state into another by a very minor event.)

Every cop I've ever met (and I've had several friends on the Edmonton Police Service) has zero problem with peaceful protests, but all are wary of this tendency for individuals to lose their inhibitions and become mindless in a herd. Chalk it up to our lizard forebrain (which most cops, sadly, are all too familiar with...).

Garth

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