I actually have beef with most web designer (but since you are on the OM
list, I don't have beef with you) :-)
But most webpages are WAY TOO FLOWERY. A webpage IMHO is suppose to provide
information, be easy to read, and context searchability should be given some
priority. Some pages have just way too much flash, I can't stand flash
personally... As someone who use to do web pages, I think most people fill
webpages with too much sh*t and not enough content. A clean, professional
looking webpage is so hard to find, I feel like I'm looking for the Lock
Ness Monster.. There are occassional sightings, and people who swear
they've seen a great webpage...but most are just crap.
As for IE vs Netscape.... Opera is the better browser! IE is not very
standards compliant, but then again, it's MS, they are their own standard
and they will shove it down your throat whether you like it or not. The IE
bookmark system is crap. Mozilla is not a bit better than NS6, but it leaks
memory like the hoover dam, and so I had to get rid of it.
half the pages I see, have a bad .css file, and thus the entire page won't
load and gives errors. Also, IE is pretty forgiving, and so when you have
invalid HTML code, it will still display it, where as Netscape won't. So IE
has helped to produce subpar, web programmers, who have total disregard for
whether their code is valid or not, because IE will still display it. Most
use Frontpage POS and can't write a single line of javascript or write a
webpage without a GUI editor if their life depended on it. The computer
industry is flooded with morons dependent on GUI editors that don't give you
the tight control that source code programming gives you. There are "web
programmers" who can't read HTML. That just disgusts me, that's why I got
out of the web programming business, it's flooded with people who I might be
associated with.
Still there is 5% that are great, and I'm sure those are the 5% that live on
this list.. I mean, they own OM stuff, they must be smart by default,
right?? ;-)
Albert
----- Original Message -----
From: "Olaf Greve" <o.greve@xxxxxxx>
To: <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 4:19 AM
Subject: RE: [OM] [OT] two OM items for sale -> browsers
> Hi,
>
> An OT rant here, no offence intended, so I hope none is taken.
>
> > Actually it worked fine for me using Netscape (4.79) so I would suspect
> that his
> > problem is related to something else.
>
> Wow, I must admit that I'm a bit surprised at how many people still use
> Netscape as their main browser. As web development is one of my main
> responsibilities, I can tell that IE is by far the better browser when it
> comes down to style sheet and DHTML support. In fact, the NS4 browsers are
> frustrating the heck out of me, due to their poor DHTML/CSS support. NS6+
is
> already a LOT better than NS4 (at least where CSS support is concerned),
but
> still the more sophisticated pages tend to look crappier in NS6 than in
> IE4+.
>
> I can only recommend people to use IE browsers (and this advice is coming
> from someone who does NOT particularly like MS products), or if they
insist
> on using NS, to at least upgrade to V6+.
>
> IMO, NS only has itself to blame for having lost the competition with IE,
> sure enough, MS had a very mean way to "promote" (ahum!) their browser,
but
> up till version 3 of IE and NS, NS was the better browser, but then they
> messed up, and IE quickly overtook NS quality wise.
>
> Just my 2 eurocents...
>
> Cheers!
> Olafo
>
> PS: For those who want to see an example of NS4 browsers goofing up even
> simple DHTML/CSS pages, point any NS4 browser to www.secondhandcameras.nl
> and then after having taken a good look at the way the background image is
> rendered, as well as the input fields, they should re-visit the site with
an
> NS6+ or IE4+ browser; what a difference that makes!
>
>
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