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Re: [OM] Admin Message - your attention please

Subject: Re: [OM] Admin Message - your attention please
From: Larry <Halpert@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 22:41:49 -0400
As expected!

Nice to see ya back! :)

Larry

Tom Scales wrote:

> Giles was nice enough to copy me on his email to the list.  In the spirit of
> his request, I'm going to resubscribe.  OK, I realize many of you are
> muttering profanities under your breath right now.
>
> I also realize that with my, well, stubborn personality, I often escalate
> what could be minor OT threads into more major ones.  (now there are people
> rolling onto the floor laughing) and I promise to hold my tongue, or my
> keyboard, wherever possible.
>
> I've also been pushy (yeah, yeah) and written the others that unsubscribed
> and encouraged them to come back too.
>
> For those of you that are fairly new, the last couple months have been very
> unusual here on the list.  I belong to several lists and have never seen one
> with the sense of family that this list has.  I know I've personally have a
> rough couple years with my wife's health (much better, thankfully), and my
> friends on this list have been a huge help and support during that time.
> The world is an interesting place when some of the people I consider close
> friends live thousands of miles away -- and I have never met them in person,
> but that is how I feel about the people I know here, and hopefully they feel
> the same.  So, I certainly encourage everyone, whether they are long
> standing members, or subscribed today, to become an even bigger part of the
> family.  It's a great place to be.
>
> I'm rambling now, but one last point. In a world as confused and messed up
> as our's clearly is, we need a refuge like this.  Let's make it a great
> place again.
>
> My thanks to Giles for an unenviable job. We all appreciate it.
>
> Tom
>
> >
> > The current level of seriously off-topic posts to the lists is causing
> > serious levels of acrimony.  Quite a few long-time list members have
> > recently left the list as a result, their reasons are not identical but
> the
> > common factor is off-topic posts.
> >
> > Those who have left include:
> >
> > Garth Woods
> > Gary Reese
> > Tom Scales
> > Dave Bulger
> > John Hudson
> > Dirk Wright
> >
> > And probably others, these are just the ones that spring immediately to
> > mind.  I don't think any of these people have been subscribers for less
> > than 3+ years.
> >
> > I think it is fairly obvious that when list members of such long standing,
> > and who have contributed so much, decide to leave almost en masse - there
> > is a problem.
> >
> > I have never wanted to moderate the list or act as censor.  Even now I do
> > not wish to.
> >
> > So I am hereby making an 'appeal' for a big reduction in the sustained
> > pursuit of off-topic threads.
> >
> > In light of the recent horrific and momentously tragic events in the US, I
> > think there is obviously a clear emotional desire and need for some people
> > to discuss related matters.
> >
> > So it is my suggestion that those who wish to pursue whatever issues they
> > feel a need to - do so freely for one week as of this day.  So by Saturday
> > 29th long running off topic threads should cease.
> >
> > I will go further and suggest that at-length discussions of American
> > politics and millitary actions, unless they somehow pertain to Olympus
> > photographic equipment, should be discouraged.
> >
> > These are just suggestions.  If I were to make them rules I might
> > ultimately have to enforce them and eject offenders from the list.  I
> would
> > rather join the ranks of the departed than be put in that position.
> >
> > Essentially this is a plea for people to exercise discretion and self
> > restraint with regard to off-topic threads.  By no means am I suggesting
> > that no off-topic discussions arise, just that people should try and keep
> > an eye on the signal to noise ratio of the list at any given time and
> > perhaps refrain from contributing to the noise when they realise the
> > overall level has gotten to be a bit much.
> >
> > I seriously feel that if we do not do something collectively about this
> > situation fairly soon, the continuation of this list may be in doubt.
> >
> > I would like to extend a plea to all those who have recently departed
> > because of some aspect of this issue, to please reconsider.
> >
> > Giles
> > List Administrator
> >
>
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