Does anyone have a brief summary of the factors(pointers) that add up to a
good print quality in a processing shop?
I would want to know what sort of questions to ask the technician or what to
demand to get a good result.
Regards
Titoy
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris O'Neill <coneill@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bhinderks@xxxxxxxxx>; <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: [OM] Films and Processing
> Hi, Barry:
>
> On 24 Jan 2001, at 8:52, bhinderks@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > Snow must be getting to you up in Edmonton. Your prior rant led
> > directly to this one.
>
> There isn't much snow in Edmonton. Maybe that's it???
>
> Sorry if my message came across as a rant... it wasn't intended that
> way!
>
> > NO ONE said the discount labs produce crap - just that there are better
> > ways (just as in the rest of photography) to really see what your
> > camera/lens/film combo produces.
>
> Both are true. Perhaps my use of the "C" word was because some
> folks have reported *very* poor results from discount labs. I just didn't
> want anyone to get the impression that *all* discount labs are the
> same.
>
> > Discount labs have their place in the chain and as I stated I still use
> > them for some stuff. Good printers (the human kind) have an art to how
> > they work. Finding one who understands what you want is a process. When
> > you do you will be truly amazed at the results - and you will learn
> > even more about photography.
>
> Again, very true. It would be nice to be able to "get into the back" at
> McBain's, meet their techs, and maybe with some luck see them at
> work. But, at least in my experience, that's not possible.
>
> > The comment about rotating staff was from me and refers to the fact you
> > are dealing with 4 or more different peoples interpretation of what is
> > printed - yes they do have some controls in the machine printing - ask
> > to sit in some time and see for yourself. If all four printed the same
> > neg I guarantee you will get four slightly different prints.
>
> Hmmm... I thought it was "Biker Lex" who made the original comment!
> Oh, well... no matter! :-)
>
> True, again! But, correct me if I'm off-base here, if the *same* person
> printed it 4 times, say on 4 different days, wouldn't you *still* get 4
> slightly different results? I haven't the foggiest idea 'bout the "magic"
of
> developing and printing of film, but I've always thought that how it turns
> out depends on the the tech, how the machine is operating, whether (or
> not) the chemicals are "fresh," and a whole host of other variables? So,
> and again correct me if I'm wrong, isn't it pretty much impossible to get
> two *identical* prints?
>
> > Do you care -- that's your call. Do you want consistentcy in your
> > prints -- that's your call.
>
> I may be WAY off base here, and so I'm prepping myself for an
> onslaught from those who know better, but I've always thought 'bout the
> only way to *really* get *exactly* what you want is either set-up your
> own darkroom and do it yourself, or stand over the shoulder of the tech
> and say "no, that's not quite right" as they "spin the dials" or do
> whatever it is they do? But, as I said, I'm not in a position to do
either
> of those.
>
> > I've already learned lots of photographic lessons the hard way - just
> > thought you might want to save some time.
>
> I'm learning too, and have had my "rough knocks" as I've gone down the
> path. Again, I'm sorry if my previous message (or this one!) sounds like
> I'm ranting. I'm NOT ranting, DAMN IT!!! :-)))
>
> Seriously, though, I was merely making some comments based on my
> limited and still-learning knowledge and experience. Others, including
> yourself, have provided LOTS of food for thought, much of it that I'll
> (hopefully) give a try in the future.
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris
>
> ---
> I'm *not* a Zuikoholic.... I'm a Zuikohobbiest!
> Chris O'Neill (coneill@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> http://www.nucleus.com/~coneill
>
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