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Subject: Re: [OM] Re: [no OM content] Germany, here I come (was Fatherland over others)
From: "George M" <gma@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:44:25 -0800
Bill;

very well said.

George
-----Original Message-----
From: BILL F BROOKS <brookswf@xxxxxxxx>
To: olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 9:01 PM
Subject: [OM] Re: [no OM content] Germany, here I come (was Fatherland over
others)


>Well said Rand E.,
>
>My first knee-jerk reaction to the *offensiveness of a post-lable* was
>"get a life", quit placing *your* value judgments on a simple phrase that
>got sucked into a horrible propaganda song and be on with yourself.
> While I'm fully aware that for some people the past is as real as today,
>other people just like to snipe at percieved *politically-incorrect*
>statements/comments/utterances et. al.
>
>The past is history (learn from it)
>Tomorrow is a mystery
>Today is a gift
>That's why we call it The Present!
>
>
>Bill >; )
>"Life unfolds on a great sheet called Time (film)*,
>and once finished (developed)* is gone(here)* forever..."
>
>*provided you have a good archival system in place...
>
>On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:50:55 -0800 "Rand E. Tomcala"
><rtomcala@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>Eric,
>>  Your post proves exactly what I was refering to.  If you are looking
>>for it, you can find it.  Anywhere, anytime.
>>  If you are from Poland, look at my name.  What do you think I am, an
>>american indian?
>>  The vast majority of us weren't alive at that time so have not had
>>the
>>experience.  It is history, some of which is ignoble, as will some of
>>the future be.  We try to learn from it, not bathe in it.
>>Rand E.
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>Eric Behr wrote:
>>>
>>> Rand E. Tomcala:
>>> >
>>> >Maybe I can find a way to be offended too.  I'm sure that if I
>>> >constantly look hard enough and convolute simple things enough, I
>>too
>>> >can find reason to be offended.
>>>
>>> Sorry about off-topic, but you don't have to look hard to see why
>>the
>>> thread has been offensive from the start, to me, a _Pole_! The
>>phrase is
>>> synonymous with the Third Reich's ambitions to rule the world
>>(America
>>> too).
>>>
>>> I'm sure the original poster typed it in with no bad intentions, but
>>> using it as a general reference to Germany is just as offensive as
>>> calling Americans "slave traders", or saying "Polish concentration
>>> camps".
>>>
>>> Ignorance may be bliss, but it also creates much hatred in this
>>world.
>>> Let's reflect on it this Christmas season instead of being offended
>>by
>>> the fact that someone else feels offended.
>>>
>>> OM: how do we handle street people photography in various countries?
>>> What are "safe" circumstances? When do you feel you can get beaten
>>up or
>>> even shot for taking a picture? Which cultures are
>>"photography-friendly",
>>> and which are not? [please change the Subject: if you reply]
>>>
>>> --
>>> Eric Behr         | NIU Mathematical Sciences      | (815) 753 6727
>>> behr@xxxxxxxxxxxx | http://www.math.niu.edu/~behr/ |  fax: 753 1112
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