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Re: FRAUD ALERT! (was: [OM] Macro kit (complete info to contact thesell

Subject: Re: FRAUD ALERT! (was: [OM] Macro kit (complete info to contact theseller))
From: Alain Duquet <alain.duquet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:54:57 -0500
Nice text Jan on people and insurance.
People are nice until the money is on the table.

I can understand your frustration
if the seller Cloutier has really promised you the macro kit Sunday.
(he ask me to announce Wednesday will be the closing date).
I'm not happy with this event.
I think Cloutier is not really conscious of the value for us of his equipment.
I called him this morning and he was very confused about that trouble.
He said : it's not a fraud I return the personnal check. Oh! boy

Alain Duquet

Jan Steinman a écrit:

> Okay, I apologize for what might be perceived as threats against innocent
> buyers in general. My threats were against a specific person who purchased
> it, knowing it was already promised. I have reason to believe this is the
> case, and I should have stated so in my mail to the group.
>
> However, I'm simply amazed at the "get over it, crybaby" mentality of this
> group in public. I have received nothing but supportive email by private
> correspondance, but almost nothing but criticism in public email to the
> list. (Thanks, Denton and David, for being somewhat supportive in public.)
> There's probably a lessen there. These weren't 50/1.4 lenses -- there were
> rare and unusual items in that offering.
>
> An enlightening coincidence is the thread on insurance scams. A third of
> the people seem to be plotting to screw their insurance company, and
> another third seem to be upset over their high rates, and the final third
> is scolding me for trusting someone to honor their promise. There's
> probably another lesson there. I am only glad I did not do a camera deal
> with any of those who see fit to steal from anyone, even if it is an
> insurance company.
>
> To those of you who wrote that it is no big thing to go back on a promise
> to sell after you have received payment, you'll see your words in quote the
> next time you try to sell something on this list. Sorry if you think that's
> a threat -- I think it's The Golden Rule.
>
> Again, I apologize to those who thought I was insulting all buyers and
> sellers on this list in my first message, which I've probably now managed
> to do with this follow-up. :-) I've had good dealings with several people
> on this list, particularly David Brown -- I send him cash, and he puts the
> equipment in the mail the same day. Wouldn't such a world be a great place
> in which to live?
>
> (Given the heat I've taken, perhaps I should just criticize David for
> unrealistically raising my expectations... :-)
>
> Anyway, this is probably enough. I won't post again on this topic, and I
> encourage others to contact me via private email, rather than posting to
> the list.
>
> : Jan Steinman <mailto:jans@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> : 19280 Rydman Court, West Linn, OR 97068-1331 USA
> : +1.503.635.3229
>
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