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Subject: Re: [OM] Paul Van T.
From: Paul Van Tuyl <olympusguy@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 00:11:32 -0600
John, and others:

I have been told by many list users that they appreciated knowing who/where some
of the OLY stuff can be found. I am not here to try to sell anyone anything. I
wish my critics would reflect on john's comments. I see lots of references to
things for sale here. You will never see me interefering with those postings. I
too believe in live and let live. Hey, life's too short to get uptight about
some comments.

When I next see Bob Olympus, I'm going to tell him how some of you are behaving.
Paul.

John Petrush wrote:

> R. Lee Hawkins <lhawkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >
> >Hi all:
> >I'm not sure if Paul is starting to get on anyone else's nerves again,
> >but he sure is tweaking mine.  Paul, in the future PLEASE privately
> >email people when you have an item available for sale.  This list is NOT
> >intended to be your private advertisement vehicle.  Also, emails that
> >basically have no technical content (like the many you have sent saying
> >"I agree completely" without adding any new info) are especially
> >tiresome.  Finally, your incessant use of !!!!! marks makes your posts
> >appear as if they are coming from a teenager who isn't doing very well
> >in their English class.
> >
> >While I respect you for devoting so much time to Olympus items as a
> >dealer, it's getting increasingly hard for me to tolerate you on this
> >list.  I had thought you had agreed to carry out advertisments in
> >private email, but you seem to have forgotten that commitment.  *sigh*.
> >
> >This list has always had a high signal to noise ratio.  Unfortunately,
> >the day Paul started posting to the list, that ratio dropped.
> >
> >If anyone else is bothered by all this, please chime in.  If not, feel
> >free to tell me I'm just spitting into the wind.
>
> The last time this discussion was held, I held my peace......
>
> One of the greatest powers of the internet is the capability to share
> information quickly and freely.  The truly operative word there is "freely".
> Without that freedom, this list might not even exist.
>
> PvT's usage of " ! " marks may not be proper application of punctuation in
> the English language, but he is free to do so - it is *his* style.  His
> responses of "I have one of these available for $x.xx" may not have
> technical content, but neither does a vigorous thread (which I heartily
> enjoyed btw) on how to find a good deal in garage sales.  As with any other
> participant of this list, Paul is free to do and say what he pleases.  As
> long as this remains a free country, he has that right.
>
> Remember also, we all have a delete key on our keyboards.  *You* have the
> choice - the power- to simply delete any and every message with "Paul Van
> Tuyl" in the From: section.  Just zap him.  No stress, no strain, no fuss.
> If his messages bother you that much, I encourage you to do exactly that.
> However, it is fundamentally wrong to attempt to ban PvT, or any other
> person, from this list as long as it remains open to all interested persons.
> Alternatively,  the list could be made private - and have each subscriber
> agree to and sign a Code of Conduct contract.  Then you would have some
> basis for due process to remove those who are hard to tolerate.  But I'm
> afraid that would also greatly diminish the value of this fine list and
> ultimately kill it.
>
> Freedom of speech is priceless.  It must be protected absolutely.  And in
> the process, we must tolerate what, at times, feel like abuses.  Whether I
> agree with Paul or Lee or anyone else, or not, is irrelevant.  Each of us
> has the hard won right to speak freely.
>
> John P
>
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