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From: ChrisB <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 10:35:52 +0000
Thanks for that summary, Moose.

I might switch to SmugMug, if it has a blog format.  I could then use my domain 
cbimages.uk <http://cbimages.uk/> on that system.  I’ll have a look.

Chris
> On 3 Mar 2017, at 06:33, Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> On 3/1/2017 4:07 AM, ChrisB wrote:
>> That looks good, Moose.  Do you now use Google Photos?
> 
> Chris, I not yet entirely sure know what I'm 'using':
> 
> I've been looking at alternatives to the conventional ways of display used by 
> Zone-10, Singapore, SmugMug, and so on. Although I personally am often happy 
> to wander through posted galleries, I get the distinct impression that many 
> folks browse the small thumbnails and look at a few images. Well, OK, I've 
> done that myself. :-)  To my mind, that means great images passed over, as 
> thumb doesn't often do justice to image.
> 
> The use of screen space is really poor, small sample images, surrounded by 
> lots of dead space and unnecessary stuff. Get on phone or tablet, and it's 
> even worse. The browser uses up a lot of screen space and presentation and 
> navigation are awkward, slightly to a lot. Viewing any individual image 
> requires moving it on the screen - for each image.
> 
> My biggest fan, Carol, doesn't see even all the images I post here. She is 
> almost never on a 'real' computer, and they are a pain to view on a browser. 
> With Google Photos, specifically shared with her, she gets notified whenever 
> I have added images - and I get a notice when she's looked at them. A far, 
> far superior model for family and friends who live on their mobile devices.
> 
> Some time ago, I did what you are doing, tried to work using WordPress. I was 
> able to force the 'Modularity Lite' theme into showing large, in-line images, 
> with all the stuff about other posts, etc. down at the bottom. 
> <http://www.moosemystic.net/WP_Gallery/ 
> <http://www.moosemystic.net/WP_Gallery/>>
> 
> I found the process of adding images and text between then really tedious, 
> and abandoned the effort after six posts. Putting full size images in-line 
> gets away from your display size/navigation problem. But moving the stuff 
> from side to bottom wouldn't be very useful for your continuous model. In any 
> case, its not all that good on mobile devices.
> 
> Google and Flickr both have mobile apps that eliminate the browser space 
> overhead and implement sizing to screen, pinch resizing and the familiar 
> swipe to the next image model that all mobile users are used to. Google's 
> implementations, both computer and mobile, are slightly better, to my mind. 
> (SmugMug says it allows one to create custom mobile apps for controllable 
> content. That's awkward for something like this list, and I have no idea how 
> well it may work.)
> 
> In browsers, both do a nice job of using most of the screen real estate 
> efficiently and providing much larger sample images by creating collages. 
> They are quite similar at first glance. Flickr is slightly dumber. In the 
> above example, on my 24" screen, Flickr actually enlarges, poorly, 'Piscine 
> Orbits' and 'Springing Forth' above their original size in the collage, 
> resulting in bad looking images. Click on one, and it's fine. On iOS, Google 
> also does the collage thing, rather well. Flickr gives that up, and just 
> shows thumbnails, at least all close to each other, to optimize space use.
> 
> Flickr has better EXIF summary data and a way to see it all (or at least 
> most), while Google is very bare bones. On iOS, both apps show the lens used, 
> which is nowhere to be found in their browser versions, or in any regular 
> galleries I know. (Yes, it's a pain to get, as it is in different places, 
> under different tags, for different makers, but certainly doable.)
> 
> The maps in Flickr are useless, as they don't differentiate between the image 
> at hand and those made by others in the same area. As expected, the maps in 
> Google Photos are excellent.
> 
> Taking into account all the above, and whatever factors I've missed, I 
> thought google Photos did the best overall job for both browsers and mobile 
> app (at least for iOS. I took the early death of an Android tablet as an 
> omen, and have stayed away.)

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