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Re: [OM] Apple secret sauce, was: Computer Suggestions

Subject: Re: [OM] Apple secret sauce, was: Computer Suggestions
From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 15:10:26 -0600
Don't feel bad, it took me a while to figure it out................. :-[

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA

On 2/2/2016 3:02 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
Right you are. I must be daft today not realizing that I was doing nothing more than adding an extension cord. Doh!

Chuck Norcutt


On 2/2/2016 2:10 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
Chuck,
If you pull the charging cord out of the wall wart, you have all you
need.  Phone plug on one end and USB plug on the other.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA

On 2/2/2016 1:01 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
For some strange reason I hadn't even thought about download from the
phone to the computer.  Very strange since that's the only thing I
would ever attempt to do with the phone.  I tried it and it works
fine.  All it takes is a USB cable with one Type A male connector and
one Type A female connector (for the Lightning/USB charging cord to
plug in)... Ooops!  I see that "plug" and "receptacle" are now the
fashionable terms.

I was only using the phone as an experiment since it's the only Apple
device that I have.  Remember that this started as a discussion about
whether an iPad Pro was a reasonable device for Tina to use as for
reviewing digital images hot off the camera.  I think she found her
answer and it wasn't Apple.

Chuck Norcutt


On 2/1/2016 3:20 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
Chuck,

I'm late to this discussion, but I don't really understand what you are
attempting to connect.  As to the iPhone charging cable, it routinely
allows me to upload iPhone 6 images to my Win 7 computer. However, I
believe that the front USB ports on my Dell are USB2.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA

On 2/1/2016 1:36 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
Jez appears to have the truth... I think Apple has some secret sauce.

I got a couple of USB 3.0 female-female couplers today which allows me
to join the Apple Lightning/USB charging cable to either a USB flash
drive or to the E-M1 camera body.  Sorry, no action there.  My iPhone
6s (my only Apple device) is totally unaware that any other device is
hanging on the end of the cable.

Of course, it could be that the charging cable is just that and
nothing else.  There may be no signal lines in there at all.

I haven't given up.  There are some cheap ebay items (actually, about
2500 ads) that say they have the genuine Apple magic sauce for photos.
I'll give them a try.

Chuck Norcutt


On 1/31/2016 7:30 AM, Jez Cunningham wrote:
Chuck - the iPhone/iPad camera connection adaptor has been
available for
quite a long while, but don't even imagine that because it has a USB
socket
that it will allow you to hook up an external harddisk! It's for
hooking up
USB-camera connections so that other than SD cards are supported.
There are some solutions for external drives, but they are either
based on
wifo or are complete / proprietary solutions.  I have a £150 iPhone
'case'
that gives me an additional external battery and 32GB storage -
provided I
address it via a specific app. (made by Mophie)
Jez

On 31 January 2016 at 00:19, Chuck Norcutt
<chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:



On 1/30/2016 5:56 PM, Moose wrote:


I have stuck to my own advice: never upgrade Windoze, but don't
worry
when the next machine has the latest OS. I didn't quite follow that
for
my current desktop, opting for Win7 over 8, but had a specific
technical
reason, the XP Virtual mode in Win7 Pro. I still need that and use
it a
lot.


Those who have bought new machines with Win10 installed have been
fine
except for the confusion over a new and unfamiliar system. Also, not
all
are prepared to re-install everything even if they have the source
files.
Unsupported printers have been a real problem and that doesn't
matter if
you have a new machine or an old one updated.


I've been paying a lot of attention lately to the specs on the iPad
Pro. <http://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/technology/> In case you aren't
aware yet, Adobe has freebie (limited) versions of Photoshop and
Lightroom available for iOS devices (iPads & iPhones).  I think
they'll be released for Android devices too but think those are not yet available. I don't really know the functional limitations but
suspect they'll do whatever you require for downloading and
reviewing
your images (including raw conversion).  You'll need a special
(optional $30) Apple device for using the "Lightning" connector
as a
USB port to read your cards.  I assume (but don't know) that that
same
device would allow use of an external USB drive.


I haven't checked, but that is not true of the earlier models. If
Steve
J's demise has loosened up connectivity, that's nice, and the screen
looks wonderful. However, there may still be another problem


Yes, the connectivity situation has been changed. This is the part
I was
talking about <
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MC531AM/A/apple-ipad-camera-connection-kit?fnode=91>


It's a USB adapter cable and SD card reader.  I'm going to try and
cobble
one together for my (new) iPhone.  My iPhone's charger cord is
Lightning to
USB but the USB connector is male.  I'm waiting on delivery of
some USB
gender changers and will see if I can hook up an SD card or external
drive
and see what happens.  But what happens at the software interface I
haven't
a clue.  I'll spend a long time in the Apple store before I ever
buy an
Apple device of any kind.


And there was another problem. I tried going this general route,
both
with an Android tablet with SD card slot and with iPad and external
WiFi
connected storage. In both cases, the hardware and WiFi connection
worked fine, but the software didn't. I could not, at that time,
and I
looked seriously, find a file manager for Android or iOS that
allows the
equivalent of clicking on one file, then Shift-clicking on another
somewhere else on the list, to select them and everything in
between. It
was only select all or select individually. This is a tremendous
pain in
use for daily back-up copying to external media. I tried it, and
couldn't stand it; painfully tedious. If one were to erase/format
the
card after each download, it would work fine, but I'm not
interested in
foregoing that extra copy of temp. B-U.


As I said above, I haven't a clue about what happens at the software
interface to any of this stuff.  It may not be pretty. The info on
the
connector kit above says the Photo App will start after you download
from
your camera.  I suspect that's probably not the desirable course of
events
but don't know.

Chuck Norcutt


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