Congratulations. I believe the pedants on the list have just added another
member. You are correct. In the context of my message, "one" would have
been preferable to "you", though I don't consider the cosmic "you" to be as
restrictive as you, specifically you <g>, suggest.
I also agree that your visual acuity will stand in your way when looking at
images made with lesser sensors and lenses (not to mention many made with
greater sensors and lenses). One of the factors about iPhonography I enjoy
is the non-expectation of perfection and thus the ability to see "through"
the flaws to the something or whatever that drew me to the image in the
first place. (Put more indelicately, if, ah, one shoots something with
one's phone, and it fails to meet standards of perfection, then one merely
shrugs and concentrates on the "message" of the image. But if one views an
image taken, say, with one of those fancy new Leica SLs, the damn thing
better be as close to perfection as its possible for humans and their
technology to get.<g>)
I've wandered through a fair number of iPhone sites since stating to shoot
seriously with my phone, and I can assure you that most of what I see
ranges from mediocre to dreck, or, more charitably,banal to cliche . But
some of it is very good. I could say the same about conventional
photography sites as well, but I assure you (cosmic you) my standards of
judgment are much, much higher.
Besides, my phone is always in my pocket.
--Bob Whitmire
Certified Neanderthal
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 11/28/2015 2:31 PM, Bob Whitmire wrote:
>
>> Taken while on a walk today. I really do like this phone. <g>
>>
>> http://zone-10.com/tope2/main.php?g2_itemId=19218
>>
>
> Nice enough subject; certainly something I would take, do, in fact.
>
> And not bad at this size, but it somehow has that sense of lack of a sense
> of clarity that I find frustrating in so many of my own iPhone pix. That
> may be, at least in part my excessive visual acuity. :-) OTOH, it seems
> to me to be also a subtle lack of tonal clarity in the middle-high tones.
> (As well as blown highlights in an important area.)
>
> I do have some iPhone images I like quite a lot, especially those that
> aren't "straight" *, but have had trouble with others that just aren't
> quite up to "snuff".
>
> And. because I haven't been terribly pedantic lately, I will further state
>> that one of the principal reasons I love this phone is that it is helping
>> me to see differently than I see with a "real" camera in my hand, even the
>> diminutive Sony R100. In fact, deploying the iPhone recalls the vision
>> shift I experienced when I started shooting exclusively with a 4x5 camera.
>> You see shots differently. You plan them differently. You take them
>> differently. And you process them differently.
>>
>
> There you go, channeling AG, with all those "You [verb]" sentences. Might
> you mean YOU, Bob? Might "I", or "one" be a more accurate way to phrase
> them? :-)
>
> If St. Ansel were alive today, you can bet your booty he'd have a volume
>> of iPhone photos out by now.
>>
>
> If you say so. I've seen a lot of his work in the originals, including
> very early stuff, and there's a lot of technically competent mediocrity in
> the mix - in this Moose's opinion. Who's to say what he might have done
> outside of his area of great strength with new gear? (Don't get me wrong.
> I'm a big fan, with seven of his books of photographs and three of the
> Time-Life books.)
>
> The book of his color work is very much in the vein of his other
> nature/landscape work, and largely very good. But as a posthumous selection
> by editors well aware of what of his has been successful, it probably isn't
> representative of the range of color he took. (He was shooting color from
> the mid 30s, as a consultant/adviser for Kodak.)
>
> Okay, maybe that's taking it to an (AG) extreme. <g> But when I wander
>> around with the phone in my pocket, I'm not thinking about commercial
>> applications. I'm not thinking about selling the photos I take. I'm just
>> looking for subjects I think the iPhone might handle well, and
>> differently.
>>
>
> We chatted about this. I'm never thinking about selling. With "real"
> cameras, I'm just looking for subjects that I like or that interest me, and
> imagining how the gear at hand might capture what I "see". With only a
> phone, I am sometimes looking for things that will play to its strengths. *
>
> (Full Disclosure: I delivered my first iPhone sale in person today. It was
>> not intentional. She saw it on Facebook and demanded a print.)
>>
>
> Slippery Slope Alert!!
>
> Furthermore,
>> when it comes to post processing, I'm using phone apps, not the big boys.
>> Well, most of the time. I don't feel constrained by the same limits that
>> nag at me when I'm shooting with a more traditional kit.
>>
>
> Excellent! That's what my Alt Dot Moose gallery is about. *
>
> If you're doing phone photography and you don't have Snapseed, you're
>> missing the experience.
>>
>
> Another editorial nit ... since you address me (as "you"), "have" would
> more accurately be "use". I have Snapseed and a host of other such things,
> but haven't used it.
>
> Ah, took a look. The menu of "looks" idea is pretty common, not only in
> phone/tablet apps, but some PC/Mac programs. Pretty prosaic choices in SS.
> I need something wilder. :-) *
>
> Perhaps some day I'll take what I learn back to a larger sensor, more
>> conventional kit.
>>
>
> Perhaps, with more rehab time with the phone, you'll be able to pick up
> other gear and just have fun with it, making images you like. ;-)
>
> Or maybe I'm just way out ahead of my time. (NOT)
>>
>
> Only knowable in hindsight ...
>
> Babbling Moose
>
> * See my next post
>
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