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Re: [OM] How to protect yourself from Windows 10

Subject: Re: [OM] How to protect yourself from Windows 10
From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:48:03 -0500
Chuck,

I have not read Thurrott's article, but I'll accept your analysis. I have saved your comments and recommendations, and have passed them on to two of my sons. The elder son, a retired systems analyst, is very cautious about new releases, and his feelings are similar to yours. Wait a while!

The closest thing I have to social media are the LUG and OM lists. That's about all of the social network that I need. At least, with the lists, I soon get the picture of most members' positions and feelings. And, I get a good idea of where to place my trust.

I do use Gmail, to accommodate one of my sons, and am experimenting with Chrome, but I am not a Google fanboy.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA

On 8/10/2015 3:34 PM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
As far as I know there are no comments to the Slate article. I read Paul Thurrott's article 3 times and most of the comments more than once. Some of those comments support my position. Sorry, I think Thurrot's defense of Microsoft is very weak and mostly incomplete. Note that Thurrott's article is not a direct refutation of the Slate article.

The fundamental fact is that Microsoft has changed their business model to be more like Google or even more like Google than Google. It is their intention to collect vast amounts of personal data and don't tell you about it. There are opt outs provided but most ordinary users won't know about them or be able to find them. But perhaps I'm just a privacy fanatic. I have a Google account but don't use it or gmail. I don't use Facebook or other social media.

I continue to maintain that for the computer users that I support there is very little upside to a Windows 10 conversion. And we haven't even mentioned bugs and incompatibilities yet or Microsoft's diddling with your browser and antivirus apps.

Color me unconvinced,
Chuck Norcutt


On 8/10/2015 12:41 PM, Lawrence Plummer wrote:
  >
This article provides in-depth coverage of Windows 10 personal privacy
problems.  It's unfortunate that this article is needed... and you will
need it.  Without it there's no simple or obvious way to defeat
Microsoft's invasive default privacy settings. The very first lesson is
never select "Express Install" for Windows 10.


Chuck, this Slate piece has been highly criticized for some misleading information. Right off the bat, his quote of the EULA is extremely misleading. He inserts a period, in the front of a very specific set of circumstances that his quote applies to.

"Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to: 1.comply with applicable law or respond to valid legal process, including from law enforcement or other government agencies; 2.protect our customers, for example to prevent spam or attempts to defraud users of the services, or to help prevent the loss of life or serious injury of anyone; 3.operate and maintain the security of our services, including to prevent or stop an attack on our computer systems or networks; or 4.protect the rights or property of Microsoft, including enforcing the terms governing the use of the services – however, if we receive information indicating that someone is using our services to traffic in stolen intellectual or physical property of Microsoft, we will not inspect a customer’s private content ourselves, but w
e may refer the matter to law enforcement."

Read the comments to the article. Also see this alternate view of Win10:

https://www.petri.com/windows-10-privacy-concerns-are-overblown-but-perception-matters

larry




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