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Subject: Re: [OM] Tragedy
From: Jez Cunningham <jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 15:21:55 +0100
Could you guys take this off-list please?
thanks
Jez, shooting with a camera

On 13 May 2015 at 15:15, Tina Manley <tmanley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> As I always tell travelers who are planning to go to Central America with
> me and are frightened by the news from that part of the world, read the
> government warnings for where you live.  If you paid attention to every
> random drug killing or gang war, you would never leave your house.  Just
> use common sense.  It's true that there is a lot of violence out there but
> it is not usually aimed at you.  The caveat would be if you are in a part
> of the world where the majority of the people are targeting your particular
> religion, gender, or ethnicity.
>
> I am totally in favor of safe gun laws and background checks and I think
> allowing people to carry automatic weapons into Wallmart is ludicrous.  We
> are surrounded by hunters here in SC but most of them know basic gun safety
> and aren't aiming at people.
>
>
> Tina
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 2:38 AM, Nathan Wajsman <nwajsman@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > I am kind of with Scott here, although there are obviously places I will
> > avoid; for example Muslim countries or, say, Eastern Ukraine are not high
> > on my vacation list. But my son lives in Lansdale, PA right now, so on
> > August 7th we are flying to Philadelphia to spend 3 weeks visiting him.
> If
> > we didn’t, then we would not see him this summer, given the ridiculously
> > small amount of paid leave that he gets (the standard 2 weeks).
> >
> > I shall do my best to avoid getting arrested, something I successfully
> > avoided on previous US visits (pretty much an annual occurrence these
> days).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Nathan
> >
> > Nathan Wajsman
> >
> > Alicante, Spain
> > http://www.frozenlight.eu
> > http://www.greatpix.eu
> > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> > Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> >
> > Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
> >
> > YNWA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 13 May 2015, at 08:25, Scott Gomez <sgomez.baja@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > That should have read: "far more likely to be hurt in an accident". My
> > > phone has a mind of its own tonight.
> > > On May 12, 2015 11:23 PM, "Scott Gomez" <sgomez.baja@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >> The chance of your involvement in anything like that are pretty
> > >> vanishingly small. Just like my wife and I have been telling our
> > families
> > >> about our chance of being involved in problems here in Mexico.
> > >>
> > >> One of the best things one can do anymore seems to be to avoid
> > television
> > >> news. The constant drumbeat of what turns out to be mostly reports of
> > only
> > >> the worst about *any* area give a highly biased view that really
> doesn't
> > >> represent reality.
> > >>
> > >> This is in no way to say that there aren't issues. There are. And they
> > >> need to be fixed. But you're far more likely to due in assn accident
> > near
> > >> home than in any of the sort of things the need media like to blather
> on
> > >> about. Giving in and avoiding travel is letting the fear-mongering
> > assholes
> > >> win.
> > >> On May 12, 2015 5:25 PM, "John Hudson" <OM4T@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Trigger happy and brutal US police and random street violence are the
> > >>> biggest reasons why we no longer have any intention of visiting the
> > USA.
> > >>> Previous happy visits to Portland, Maine, Portland, Oregon and many
> > points
> > >>> in between and beyond are a thing of the past. What would worry me is
> > the
> > >>> prospect of being flagged down for an alleged traffic infraction,
> being
> > >>> tossed into a police cruiser or van and having my spine broken or
> body
> > >>> bruised. Sounds crazy? It is a daily occurence being reported on CNN
> > and
> > >>> Canadian news media.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 5/12/2015 5:20 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> 2nd amendment in action, again.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Nathan Wajsman
> > >>>> Alicante, Spain
> > >>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> > >>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> > >>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> > >>>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog:
> > http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> > >>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> > >>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> > >>>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> > >>>> YNWA
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 12 May 2015, at 21:43, Ken Norton <ken@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> One of the seniors is a member of our bike collective.  We found
> that
> > >>>>>> he has returned home and is okay, though I'll be he's a bit shaken
> > up.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> Ouch. It's been remarkably quiet this year, on the school shooting
> > >>>>> front, but the threat is real. As a parent of two high-school
> > >>>>> students, it's something that we tend to keep in mind and discuss
> > with
> > >>>>> our kids. It was a little close-to-home when I was still working in
> > >>>>> Colorado. Had I moved my family out there, the high school that the
> > >>>>> girls went to had a shooting itself, and was in the same district
> as
> > >>>>> the most infamous one in recent decades. But where we live, the
> crime
> > >>>>> level is already higher than average, and the threat level also
> above
> > >>>>> average, so everybody takes it more seriously. The attitude of "it
> > >>>>> can't happen here" is not our reality. It CAN happen here and we
> know
> > >>>>> it.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> A couple of you know our own story, which I'm not at liberty to
> > openly
> > >>>>> discuss, but I'll just say that I take this kind of thing VERY
> > >>>>> seriously, and our family has been directly involved in getting a
> > >>>>> high-risk individual arrested and removed from the campus. There
> are
> > >>>>> reasons why our house is under 24/7 electronic and video monitoring
> > >>>>> and has multiple layers of security.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> When a student expresses fear or concern, DO take it seriously and
> > >>>>> don't diminish his or her feelings. It's real.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> AG
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