The right-hand panel has the scroll bar on the right, the film strip has
the scrollbar along the bottom - damned inconsistent I say!
BTW - the Folder panel doesn't have a horizontal scroll bar. If you have
long folder names stacked many deep then you're up the creek. Although you
can drag the edges to widen the panel(s). I have played with all the
panels on mine over quite some time to get them optimised and neither eat
into main image space nor leave too much wasted background. Incidentally,
you can hide the top/left/right/bottom panels either with the little arrows
on the edges, or temporarily with Tab or Shift-Tab. Or you can hit F to go
full-screen on the selected image. Or use a 2nd screen, or.... (endless
possibilities)
On 4 July 2014 17:59, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Ye, gad! So it is. Even when you told me I had to look for a bit to find
> it. What it this left scroll bar stuff... an Apple thing?
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> On 7/4/2014 11:52 AM, Jez Cunningham wrote:
>
>> Scroll bar is on the left.
>>
>>
>> On 4 July 2014 16:15, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I kind of figured it did something like creating a database from
>>> EXIF
>>> data since one of the surprises was discovering that clicking on "Map"
>>> showed me several hundred images that had GPS data from the US and UK
>>> (all
>>> from my Samsung P&S). However, I don't know how to access the images
>>> from
>>> that database data yet.
>>>
>>> I had already done as you suggested "Click to the left of Folders to open
>>> it up and you will see your PC's drives. Click on any of them to see
>>> which
>>> directories (folders) have files in them " When I do that I see local
>>> disk
>>> F, main folder Photos followed by my dated photo folders. Exactly as I
>>> would have expected since that's what I told it to import. The mystery
>>> is
>>> that that list of hundreds of folders is not scrollable. I can see
>>> exactly
>>> 16 folders all in proper date order but nothing beyond that. For the
>>> life
>>> of me I cannot figure out how to scroll the list. Very frustrating since
>>> scrolling of lists is a pretty well defined process on a Windows
>>> computer.
>>>
>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/4/2014 9:31 AM, Piers Hemy wrote:
>>>
>>> 65000 images in your library? Congratulations, and welcome to the fold
>>>> (although I sense you will be guarded in joining the fold).
>>>>
>>>> I don't for a minute believe that you don't know what LR did overnight -
>>>> it
>>>> has built a relational database of your images and the EXIF data
>>>> accompanying them, and will later add to that database any keywords you
>>>> might add, as well as all the editing instructions you wish. But it's
>>>> only
>>>> the database that LR tinkers with, not the image files.
>>>>
>>>> Assuming that you asked LR to "Add" the imases on import, nothing will
>>>> have
>>>> moved on disk, everything is still where it was - and you can see that,
>>>> for
>>>> example, by looking in the LH panel in the Library module. See the
>>>> Catalog,
>>>> Folders, Collections tabs? Click to the left of Folders to open it up
>>>> and
>>>> you will see your PC's drives. Click on any of them to see which
>>>> directories
>>>> (folders) have files in them - you may need to open up all the way down
>>>> the
>>>> tree - the number of images in each folderis listed to the right of the
>>>> folder name.
>>>>
>>>> Another way, from the bottom up rather than top down, is to right click
>>>> on
>>>> any image in the Library module and select "Go to folder in Library"
>>>> which
>>>> will open up the folder tree in the LH panel at the point where your
>>>> image
>>>> is located. Or select "Show in Explorer" which will do just as it
>>>> suggests.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck!
>>>>
>>>> Piers
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: olympus
>>>> [mailto:olympus-bounces+piers.hemy=gmail.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>> Sent: 04 July 2014 14:17
>>>> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
>>>> Subject: Re: [OM] The Adobe tax
>>>>
>>>> I actually own both CS6 and LR5. In fact I've owned many versions of LR
>>>> over the years but never started one up in earnest (let it create a
>>>> library) until last night. I handed it the top level folder for my
>>>> existing
>>>> images (a by date folder structure) and let it run for 3 hours.
>>>> I really have no clue what it did except that it appears to have
>>>> created a
>>>> "collection" of some 65,000 images with no differentiation that I can
>>>> see.
>>>> My original date structure seems to be inaccessible. I hope that's not
>>>> what
>>>> I have to use in the future.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I understand that there's no problem for me at the moment. I just
>>>> wish
>>>> I knew what the problem will be in the future since I'm convinced there
>>>> will
>>>> be one.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/4/2014 5:48 AM, Piers Hemy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We are talking hypothetically, about what might be to come, after you
>>>>> have bought a boxed latest version of LR, but without having upgraded
>>>>> PSCS6. ACR supplied with CS6 will have been superseded, and the
>>>>> version supplied with LR is that newer ACR (you wouldn't have bought
>>>>> LR f
>>>>>
>>>>> that wasn't the case).
>>>>
>>>> It's the position I was in before I upgraded to CS6 - CS5's ACR would
>>>>> not open the raw files from the camera I had, but LR would. I had to
>>>>> open them in LR before doing any edits in PS - CS5 could not take
>>>>> advantage of the newer ACR in LR.
>>>>>
>>>>> But keep in mind Mike Gordon's comment that for now, Adobe are
>>>>> updating the
>>>>> CS6 ACR, so there isn't a problem yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Piers
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: olympus
>>>>> [mailto:olympus-bounces+piers.hemy=gmail.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Chuck Norcutt
>>>>> Sent: 03 July 2014 22:45
>>>>> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OM] The Adobe tax
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there compatibility between the versions of ACR supplied in
>>>>> Lightroom and those in PhotoShop? Or would raw conversion require
>>>>> operating in Lightroom first and then moving to PS?
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/3/2014 1:40 PM, Piers Hemy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Partly erroneous, Chuck. PS is no longer available as a boxed product.
>>>>>> LR is, and AIUI will continue to be so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Their past practice with PS was to allow upgrades to (for example)
>>>>>> CS5 from
>>>>>> CS2,3 or 4. They discontinued that at least a year ago, so you could
>>>>>> upgrade to CS6 only from CS5. That limitation does not apply to LR -
>>>>>> any prior version is OK. And that is the "past practice" I had in
>>>>>> mind, although I wasn't assuming anything!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Piers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: olympus
>>>>>> [mailto:olympus-bounces+piers.hemy=gmail.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Chuck Norcutt
>>>>>> Sent: 03 July 2014 16:27
>>>>>> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OM] The Adobe tax
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was my assumption (perhaps erroneous) that henceforth PS and LR or
>>>>>> their upgrade versions will no longer be available as something I can
>>>>>> buy. You
>>>>>> say: "If they continue their past practice with LR..." Why do you
>>>>>> assume that? Why would I not also assume that they will continue
>>>>>> their past practice with PS and I can continue as I always have?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I'm happy with the function of PS6 and I can get a copy of the
>>>>>> most recent ACR by occasionally popping $75 for a Lightroom upgrade
>>>>>> I'd be happy and not bother with the $10/month tax.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/3/2014 10:49 AM, Piers Hemy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 By signing up for the Creative Cloud Photography
>>>>>>> subscription,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> you knew that. Currently $10 per month with a minimum term of one
>>>>>>> year, and no sign of that pricegoing up, on the contrary they keep
>>>>>>> extending the limited time offer price, and relaxing the conditions
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> qualify for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2 By upgrading to the latest version of Lightroom. Currently
>>>>>>> $75
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> B&H (but included with PSCC in the subscription, as you also know).
>>>>>>> If they continue their past practice with LR, you will be able to
>>>>>>> upgrade
>>>>>>> LR5 to LR 6, 7 or whatever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both options include the latest ACR, and minor upgrades to it .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But is there something I missed in your question?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Piers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: olympus
>>>>>>> [mailto:olympus-bounces+piers.hemy=gmail.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Chuck Norcutt
>>>>>>> Sent: 03 July 2014 13:14
>>>>>>> To: Olympus Camera Discussion
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OM] The Adobe tax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2-3 years from now how will I be able to acquire a new version of
>>>>>>> ACR?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/3/2014 12:54 AM, Chris Barker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you don't use LR what might be the point, Chuck? I'd do so only
>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you need the new version of ACR.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3 Jul 14, at 00:09, Chuck Norcutt
>>>>>>>> <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Adobe keeps sending me reminders that I should pay the $9.99
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> monthly PS &
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lightroom tax. With CS6 and LR5 I already have more function
>>>>>>>> than I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> can use and/or learn in the next 10-20 years (my probable lifetime).
>>>>>>> But I don't know what I'd do if Olympus delivers a full-frame
>>>>>>> mirrorless camera 3 years from now and I don't have a version of ACR
>>>>>>> to support it since I am an ACR junkie at this point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What say y'all. Pay up or.... ???
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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