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Re: [OM] IMG: Small Town Infrastructure - 100% Crop

Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Small Town Infrastructure - 100% Crop
From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 16:10:51 -0600
Thanks, Moose, for the analysis.  I took a look at LightRoom, and found 
that the latest version will not run on my old XP system.  I will 
probably get a new computer in the Spring, after my tax work is 
completed, and might choose to upgrade my software at that time.  I 
really dread setting up a new system, so I procrastinate!  I certainly 
want no part of the latest developments in cloud storage.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA

On 1/3/2014 3:35 PM, Moose wrote:
> On 1/1/2014 5:28 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>> Hi Joel,
>>
>> Yes, PSE 11 does layers, but this old guy doesn't...............
>>
>> I decided that, at my age, I could spend my time better in other
>> pursuits than learning to use layers.  I will keep working at the tools
>> that I use..............  And I will learn to accept a few imperfections...
> The good news may be that this is better than last year's.
> <http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/Others/Nichols/Lineman_Art_221.htm>
>
> OTOH, it still has a lot of halos. How strong they are may be harder to see 
> without seeing it without them.
> <http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/Others/Nichols/Small_Town_Infrastructure.htm>
>
> Also, this time, they are of two types, There are the big, soft ones, 
> (Clarity?) and the thin, hard, white ones
> (sharpening).
>
> There are also small detail artifacts throughout. This is a very good showing 
> for a smallish sensor at 100%. Even so,
> it's not possible to do the tweaking you have done, without first reducing 
> noise, without getting little nasties.
>
> I know, I know, it's a 'big', APS-C sensor, but it still has enough noise at 
> base ISO that NR is needed if sharpening
> and LCE are to be applied and then viewed at 100%.
>
> It's a shame you choose to avoid layers. They may sound like a lot, but are 
> really quite simple. You make some fine
> images that are less well presented than they could be. I'm not sure that the 
> limited version of layers in PSE will do
> what's needed, or not.
>
> Bob has said that the sliders in LightRoom are much smarter, and less subject 
> to halos. That might give you the option
> of sticking with overall sliders - and having fewer artifacts.
>
> Nuanced Layers* Moose
>
> * A very special variety of chicken. Subtle pastel impressionist eggs. :-)
>
>> :-)
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>
>> On 1/1/2014 7:04 PM, DZDub wrote:
>>> To be honest, Jim, it doesn't look to me like you are quite there yet.
>>> Does PSE 11 employ layers?  If I needed shadow recovery on the bird, I
>>> might be inclined to do it in a layer and paint it in.
>>>
>>> Joel W.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joel, I did some more research on the halos you mentioned.  With my
>>>> mockingbird images, posted today, I found that I needed to reduce
>>>> capture sharpening, and to be more careful with with shadow/highlight
>>>> sliders in PSE 11.0.  I had some halo in the original mockingbird
>>>> close-up, but managed to get rid of most of it in the one that is up now.
>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Mockingbird+744.jpg.html
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your observation.  I'm still learning about PSE 11.
>>>>
>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>
>>>> On 1/1/2014 9:03 AM, DZDub wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> For Ken:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is another blue sky shot, 100% crop, that shows none of the
>>>>>> artifacts that showed up in yesterday's posting.  The sensor does fine.
>>>>>> Sometimes, the editor screws up! :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Small+Town+Infrastructure.jpg.html
>>>>>> X-E1 with Leica Telyt-R 250/4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comments and critiques welcomed.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I love the strength and detail of the photo, though it looks like there
>>>> is
>>>>> some fairly thick haloing around the support piece under the big beam.
>>>>     How
>>>>> much PP went into this one?
>>>>>
>>>>> Joel W.
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