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Subject: Re: [OM] Dead dinosaurs
From: Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:19:04 -0400
We simply have far different views on "negative externalities".  You and 
I can handle the much higher energy costs of alternative energy sources. 
  The poor and extremely poor (much of the world) cannot.

Chuck Norcutt

On 3/22/2013 6:54 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> When you consider that the purveyors and users of fossil fuels are not
> taxed even a fraction of the negative externalities they impose on
> society, the subsidy received by fossil fuels is FAR in excess of that
> granted to renewables.
>
> Op Vr, 22 maart, 2013 11:41, schreef Chuck Norcutt:
>> It's interesting that you seem to assume I do not know that or else
>> approve of it.  Yes, fossil fuels are also subsidized (but in a much
>> lesser proportion to their energy contribution) and those subsidies
>> should be removed as well.
>>
>> Chuck Norcutt
>>
>>
>> On 3/22/2013 2:44 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>> Right....and oil is not subsidized, right?
>>>
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>>>
>>> YNWA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 12:55 AM, Chuck Norcutt wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's only viable because the Feds (which includes me and you) are
>>>> paying
>>>> 30% of the cost as a grant (used to be a tax credit but some folks
>>>> aren't making enough these days that a tax credit is attractive).  You
>>>> (but not me) get included again to help pay the cost because the state
>>>> of New Jersey is also kicking something in (but I haven't found that
>>>> number yet.)
>>>>
>>>> The Feds, of course, always make wonderful investment decisions just as
>>>> with Solyndra.  :-(
>>>>
>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/19/2013 6:50 PM, Jez Cunningham wrote:
>>>>> You want big-ass solar installation... After pioneering the
>>>>> development of solar power in 1954, we just installed a 1.2 megawatt
>>>>> array at our US HQ in New Jersey.
>>>>> http://summit.patch.com/articles/new-solar-panel-system-to-power-bell-labs-campus#photo-5454471
>>>>>
>>>>> (I say 'we' as an almost ex-employee...)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jez
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19/03/2013, Nathan Wajsman <photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> Last week was very busy at work, so until the weekend, I had little
>>>>>> time for
>>>>>> pictures. So I present you a few grab shots from my home, office and
>>>>>> neighbourhood, just a few details surrounding me. Trying to make a
>>>>>> silk
>>>>>> purse etc.:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws/?page_id=958
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As always, comments and critique are welcome and appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> YNWA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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