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Subject: Re: [OM] Might as well fess up.[was OT: X100]
From: Johan Malmström <jmalmstrom@xxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:41:52 +0100
Thanks! I needed that real life comparison!

Regards Johan

Skickat från min iPad

26 feb 2013 kl. 07:02 skrev Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>:

> On 2/25/2013 8:40 PM, Moose wrote:.
>> I've recently paid a bit of attention to the large sensor 'compacts' with 
>> fixed, prime lenses. It may have been comments about the Sony RX100 that 
>> started it ...
>> 
>> In many cases, the fixed lens cameras are as large and heavy as ILCs with 
>> comparable lenses, or bigger.
> 
> The upshot of all this was another preemptive strike by my internal GAS 
> complex. A factory demo E-PL2 moved in with me 
> on the 13th., and had it's first outing on Valentines Day.
> 
> Mike 'outed me'; of course, who else, but I suppose no one else noticed, or 
> cared. :-)
> 
> On 2/20/2013 4:22 PM, usher99@xxxxxxx wrote:
>> Especially like the twin fuchsia and the 'dil. The whole gallery is 
>> expanding with nice shots. Seems you usually used 
>> the 43mm macro setting of the 12-50 on the EPL-2 for some reason.
> 
> Looking for the first time at the Pen line-up with any attention, I was 
> amazed at the quirky potpourri Oly's designer 
> and marketers created. (For those who may be curious, here's Moose's guide to 
> the Pen series camera bodies.*)
> 
> Although the E-PL1 I have is a perfectly nice back-up to the E-M5, it became 
> clear that the E-PL2 is the pick of the 
> reasonably inexpensive Pen litter.
> 
> The addition of a control wheel makes a big difference. The 'L1' is easy 
> enough to use, in a way, but the 'L2' is much 
> better. A larger LCD, with twice the pixels, makes viewing better. For my 
> fingers and hand, the subtle changes in front 
> and rear grips and the different surface texture make it much more 
> comfortable for me to hold.
> 
> What my unconscious GAS complex must have known is that I would really just 
> like this little camera. Styling is seldom a 
> big factor in my camera choices, and I tend to scoff internally at lengthy 
> discussions about camera looks. I've always 
> been very flexible about camera ergonomics.
> 
> And yet, I find the 'L2' ridiculously attractive with 12-50 attached, and 
> very cute with Panny 20/1.7. Somehow, it just 
> looks and feels good, and I enjoy using it. The LCD is certainly less useful 
> than the viewfinder on the E-M5 for most 
> light/situations, but I've managed to make it work for me even in lots of 
> direct sun.
> 
> It'll never replace the M5 for more serious work, but for a day trip to visit 
> friends and several sessions in our yard, 
> I've had a lot of fun, and taken shots I like. For casual shots in good 
> light, no high DR subjects, it gives little away 
> to the M5. All the images in my early spring garden album were taken with it. 
> <http://zone-10.com/tope2/main.php?g2_itemId=2449>
> 
> I just checked, and I haven't shot the M5 since the L2 arrived. Weird.
> 
> Softer Headed Moose?
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *
> The Olympus Pen Story - A Personal Version
> 
> E-P1 – The capabilities of the E-620, 4/3 camera are shoehorned and/or 
> recreated in a much smaller body, without a 
> mirror and with a smaller lens mount, the µ4/3 mount.
> 
> It’s an exciting new idea, the Mirrorless, Interchangeable lens Camera, ILC. 
> Olympus and Panasonic, partners in the 4/3 
> Standard, have collaborated on this new standard, µ4/3. Panny’s first camera 
> is already out, and this is Oly’s first.
> 
> E-P2 – Only five months after the E-P1, the E-P2 comes out. The only 
> technical difference is the addition of an 
> accessory connector under the flash shoe. Really, it should be the E-P1a, but 
> marketing smarts choose to make it look to 
> the casual observer like there real action in the Pen line.
> 
> E-PL1 – Oly takes the same image creation innards and puts then in a body 
> with simplified controls, similar to many 
> compact cameras, and with some feature differences.
> 
> Downgrades:
> Smaller, 2.7” LCD, with the same pixel count
> No orientation sensor, continuing on all two letter models.
> Mainly plastic body with aluminum skinned front (Stainless steel and alloys 
> for E-P2)
> Image stabilization with claimed 3 stop benefit, vs. 4 stops for E-P2
> Mono mic with option to add stereo using adapter vs. built-in stereo mics.
> Maximum shutter speed 1/2000th sec, vs. 1/4000th.
> 
> Upgrades:
> Built-in flash (external flashes only on E-P2)
> Direct record movie button vs. movies only as position on E-P2 mode dial
> 
> They call this a Pen Lite, even though it’s only 6% lighter than the E-P2 
> and, based on published dimensions, 14% larger 
> in volume. Lite must mean feature lite.
> 
> E-PL2 – Someone rethinks the super simple interface, gives the E-PL1 a 
> cosmetic redesign, adds one control wheel and 
> better control button layout.
> 
> Screen goes up to 3” and the number of pixels doubles. Occasionally useful, 
> lower DR ISO 100 dropped, mostly useless ISO 
> 6400 added.
> 
> The actual big news isn’t the camera, but that the kit lens had been 
> redesigned to their MSC standard, and focuses much 
> faster and more quietly.
> 
> E-P3 – Some significant changes under another cosmetic redesign, more like 
> the PL2 than the P2. And the ever changing 
> front grip is now removable.
> 
> Same sensor, but a faster processor, for faster focus confirmation and 
> shorter screen blackout.
> New 3” screen, OLED with touch and higher rez.
> New, 35 point, AF, which continues in all later models.
> AF illuminator light, which continues in all later models.
> 
> E-PL3 – Most significant – and most puzzling – change: The screen is still 
> listed as 3” and 460k pixels and, it tilts. 
> But, it is 16:9 proportions. So, when shooting or viewing full frame stills, 
> the image fills only the center of the screen.
> 
> So, lets see, all prior models but one have had 3”, 4:3 screens, 230,000, 
> 460,000, then 614,000 pixels. The one small 
> one, on the E-PL1, is 2.7”, 230,000 pixels.
> 
> The actual screen for stills on this one is 2.45”, 345,000 pixels. Remember, 
> resolution is a linear function, while 
> pixel count is square/area. The increase from 230,000 to 460,000 with the 
> E-PL2 increases resolution by 50%, not 100%. 
> From the E-PL2, we’ve dropped resolution about 25%, and on a smaller screen.
> 
> E-PM1 – The forces behind the E-PL1 return, designing a quite capable camera 
> without adequate controls for anything but 
> Auto, without some frustration. Continues the video screen format, fixed.
> 
> NOTE: All the prior cameras make the same images. They make them faster with 
> the new processor starting with the E-P3. 
> There is some talk of an updated sensor along the way. But use the comparison 
> gizmo on dpreview. There is just no change 
> in image quality.
> 
> Lots of sound and fury. Folks like me, who weren’t keeping close track, could 
> easily think there was a lot of 
> development going on. An impressive job of smoke and mirrors, keeping the 
> image of action and progress alive until it 
> really did come alive in the E-M5.
> 
> E-PL5 – Most of the capability of the E-M5 in a more compact camera. Quite 
> alluring – until I discover it’s the same, 
> silly, video format screen. I lost interest.
> 
> E-PM2 – An E-PL5 in the low control body, with the tiny screen.
> 
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> What if the Hokey Pokey *IS* what it's all about?
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