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Re: [OM] IMG: M8 vs. OM-D, real people pictures

Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: M8 vs. OM-D, real people pictures
From: Peter Klein <pklein@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 11:15:51 -0800
C.H.:  I think you may have missed that my pictures were taken at ISO 
3200.  There is a sharpness penalty at that ISO, whether due to noise or 
noise reduction, or reduced microcontrast. And there may be slight 
motion blur at slow shutter speed.  I have to experiment with the IS 
off, I've only had it on so far.

Here's a picture of me that a friend took with my camera (at my 
birthday). This is at ISO 800, wide open at f/1.7.  Sharp enough?
<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/Thanksgiving12/PB220029+2.jpg.html>

I'm going to try ISO 1600 for my next indoor session.  That may be the 
"sweet spot" of IQ vs. noise and noise-related degradation.

--Peter


 > I'm a little disappointed to see the E-M5+20/1.7 results (both noise and
 > sharpness), my EPL-1 with 14-42 kit lens seem did better.
 >
 > http://www.accura.com.hk/temp/PC078597.jpg
 >
 >
 > ISO 1250, 1/30s, IS on. Converted with Viewer 2, sharpness -2. 
Resized at PS with USM 60, 0.4.
 >
 > C.H.Ling
 >
 >
 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Klein" <pklein [at] 
threshinc.com>
 > To: <olympus [at] thomasclausen.net>
 > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 1:28 PM
 > Subject: [OM] IMG: M8 vs. OM-D, real people pictures
 >
 >
 >
 > The following is unscientific, but probably useful.  These pictures were
 > shot at the same house, in the same general situation (festive
 > occasions), with much the same lighting, some of the same people, and
 > too much food. The difference is that the first picture of each pair
 > below was taken with a Leica M8 and 35/1.4 Summilux ASPH at ISO 640.
 > The second picture of each pair (Christmas Eve this year) was taken with
 > an OM-D E-M5 and a Panasonic 20/1.7 at ISO 3200. Each pair was taken at
 > roughly the same place, and so has similar lighting unless the bulbs
 > were changed to something different in between the pictures.
 >
 > Both lenses were used somewhere between wide open and closed down one
 > stop.  Everything was shot RAW and processed with Capture One, using the
 > defaults, and making the white balance look reasonably good to my eye,
 > but without my trying to go against the basic nature of the camera.
 >
 >
 > 
<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/erevxmas2011/L1008813.jpg.html>
 > <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/xmaseve2012/PC240049-w.jpg.html>
 >
 > 
<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/NewYear2011-12/L1009035.jpg.html>
 > <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/xmaseve2012/PC240053-w.jpg.html>
 >
 > 
<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/erevxmas2011/L1008832.jpg.html>
 > <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/xmaseve2012/PC240067-w.jpg.html>
 >
 > 
<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/friends/ErevXmas09/L1005913.jpg.html>
 > <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/xmaseve2012/PC240069-w.jpg.html>
 >
 > Feel free to browse the rest of the folders if you want to see more.
 >
 > Here's what I'm seeing so far:
 >
 > 1. The M8 with 35mm Summilux is clearly sharper when properly focused.
 > But the E-M5 with 20/1.7 is quite usable. Note that the difference in
 > sharpness is less when both cameras are set at ISO 800, but it is still
 > there, and you can see it even in these Web-sized JPGs.
 > 2. Despite the E-M5's wonderful image stabilization, I can get sharper
 > shots at ~1/60 with the M8 than I can with the E-M5.
 > 3. The M8 is biased towards pink/magenta, the E-M5 towards yellow. (Yes,
 > I'm using an IR filter on the M8).
 > 4. The E-M5 at 3200 is a bit noisier than the M8 at 640. From other
 > sessions not shown here, I see that at 800/640 the E-M5 seems a little
 > less noisy than the M8 in the shadows. So 1600 may be the "sweet spot"
 > for the E-M5. I'm going to shoot New Year's Eve at ISO 1600 rather than
 > 3200, and see how that fares.
 >
 > --Peter
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > --

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