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Re: [OM] IMG: New Eyeglasses

Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: New Eyeglasses
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 21:12:27 -0800
On 12/6/2012 4:38 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
> I run into the problem that if I pull back the highlights I get comments
> that the scan is muddy.  Most of the comments on this one have been very
> positive.  I hate to start manipulating more when the vast majority of the
> comments are positive.  It's extremely frustrating.

A couple of thoughts:

First, I think you will have endless trouble if you try to please everyone. I 
think it is more useful to use comments as 
a way to see things I may have missed, or not fully understood, in the context 
of the whole image. Then adjust if, and 
only if, it changes how YOU see the image.

For example, many here, Chuck most recently, have commented on overly saturated 
colors. I don't think that was the main 
problem with your earlier KR scans, nor with The Ride. It's easy to look at an 
image full of bright colors, sense/know 
that something is off, and say it's oversaturated color. The colors of those 
Guatemalan fabrics in equatorial sun ARE 
really bright.

The earlier KRs had multiple problems of color balance, mixed up curves, excess 
contrast, etc., but not oversaturation, 
per se. As you start to get KR under control with VS, that becomes clearer.

The Ride has a problem, but it's not the bright, highly saturated colors, it's 
that the brightest colors have been 
clipped. In the reds of the embroidery, the pink of the serape* and the white 
of the shirt, the red channel has clipped. 
Doesn't much matter in the case of the shirt, but it has lost textural detail 
in the serape and thrown off the color and 
made the red flowers in the embroidery look cartoonish.

Second, I know you WUV LR, but this is a case where it is simply not the 
solution. Pulling back highlights over the 
whole image to correct a tiny area or areas will indeed mess it up. It's either 
let it be or use a tool that allows 
precise separate adjustments for areas. In PS, I have an Action that selects 
only the clipped highlights. When LCE or 
some other adjustment pushes small areas of white into clipping, I use the 
action to select areas to leave as they were. 
Takes a couple of seconds.

Speaking of which, look at the area around the chin of the background guy and 
the edges of the hat. See that bright 
halo? That's an artifact of too much use of LCE (Clarity slider?) or other 
adjustments. Really simple to avoid with a 
mask in PS, while still using as much of the effect as desired. I wouldn't 
comment, except I can see it in other recent 
posts, as well.

As to the blown highlights in New Eyeglasses and The Ride, you should check the 
White point setting on the Color Tab 
when doing second stage scanning, from RAW scan files. I don't know much about 
Provia, they may be lost on the slide. 
Easy enough to look at the slide with a loupe. If Portra BW is anything like 
color Portra, it has lots of highlight 
range, and should be recoverable.

Clipped Moose

* or rebozo, or whatever they call them in Guatemala.

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