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Re: [OM] Software suggestions

Subject: Re: [OM] Software suggestions
From: "Walters, Martin" <Martin.Walters@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 20:22:30 +0000
I use PSE, which I gather uses the ACR engine, but not the current version. As 
a result, I cannot import ORF files from the OM-D (yes I know I could give 
Adobe $80 to upgrade). I also am limited with LR (if I wanted to use it) as I'm 
still running XP and, thus, LR4 would mean a whole new computer (some software 
- particularly Vuescan to run my V-ED) and I'd be on the W8 learning curve. 

My priority at the moment has been scanning old family slides from the late 
50s-early 60s, some of which (non Kodachrome) are now pretty shades of pink. 
Most of those slides have not been viewed since that time, so their fun for me 
as I was rather young at that time.  My PSE (v8) can be slow, especially with 
the large files (e.g., scanned slides at 100+Mb). Some of the editing (e.g., 
cloning etc) cannot be done on 16 bit files. I find myself using FastStone, 
which may not be so sophisticated, a lot of the time. It will read my ORF 
files, but apparently only as 8 bit (or something like that). I recently 
decided to try PhotoNinja, which does read the OM-D ORF files. Still learning 
about what I can do with RAW files in that.

Martin 

-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Norcutt [mailto:chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 3:06 PM
To: Olympus Camera Discussion
Subject: Re: [OM] Software suggestions

But do also try PSE.  It has most of the photographer's requirements of 
PhotoShop (especially Camera Raw) and is vastly cheaper.  I've downloaded the 
Windows versions a couple times as they've upgraded the release just to see 
with it looks like and how it works.  I've never noticed any performance 
problems with it but neither have I given it anything hard to work on.

Chuck Norcutt


On 12/3/2012 2:18 PM, Paul Braun wrote:
> Good to know.  That helps quite a bit.
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Tina Manley <images@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Lightroom does not require a filing system or impose one on you.  All 
>> it does is index your photos where they are in your filing system.  
>> It is importing a preview and the information about the photo.  LR 
>> never moves your photos unless you tell it to.  You can use whatever 
>> file system you have.  I still use the one I set up 30 years ago with 
>> PhotoTrack software.
>>   The reason the book doesn't discuss the Library structure is that 
>> there is not one.  Wherever you have your photos - on your hard drive 
>> or external hard drives or the cloud - all LR does is index them and 
>> note where they are.  That is what the Library is - a visual and 
>> metadata searchable database of your system of photos.  If you delete 
>> or change the photos in another program, all you have to do is tell LR to 
>> synchronize the folder.
>>   It will find all of the changes, add new photos, delete missing 
>> ones, and update the metadata.
>>
>> Tina
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Chuck Norcutt < 
>> chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Everyone it telling you Lightroom despite your statement that you 
>>> don't want to be forced into a filing system.  I've had 3 versions 
>>> of Lightroom but have never really made use of it because the very 
>>> first thing is wants to do is "import" my many tens of thousands of 
>>> images from a file structure I have known and loved for many years 
>>> (works for me).  I bought Tina's recommended book on Lightroom 
>>> thinking maybe it would finally make clear something about library 
>>> structure for Lightroom.
>>>
>>> But I was astounded that there is hardly any discussion at all of 
>>> library structure except for the warnings I anticipated and was 
>>> afraid of... (my rephrasing, not a quote) *DO NOT* delete from, add 
>>> to or reorder the physical storage structure of the image database 
>>> *without going through Lightroom*.  That makes perfect sense if you 
>>> *only* use Lightroom but also means that you can't add or delete 
>>> things with PhotoShop or anything else outside the Lightroom world 
>>> without leaving Lightroom unaware of and needing to be updated to the 
>>> changes.
>>>
>>> Someone has told me (on this list and maybe more than once) that 
>>> Lightroom can use my existing structure but I don't really know how 
>>> to to that nor do I know how to work around the *do it only through
>>> Lightroom* problem.
>>>
>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/3/2012 10:18 AM, Paul Braun wrote:
>>>> I'm about to get one of the new iMacs, and I'm thinking about new 
>>>> photo software.  I had been running an old copy of Photoshop CS2 
>>>> that I had inherited, which will no longer run.
>>>>
>>>> For me, Photoshop is overkill.  I was considering Aperture, but not 
>>>> if
>> it
>>>> forces a filing system like iPhoto does.  My file structure makes 
>>>> sense
>>> to
>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>> Thos of you who use Photoshop Essentials - are you happy?  Does it 
>>>> accomplish the basic necessities?  I'm not going to do super-fancy
>> stuff,
>>>> just the basic cropping/color correction/brightness-contrast/light
>>>> retouching stuff.
>>>>
>>>> I'm open to suggestions.  Whatever it is needs to run on OSX 
>>>> Mountain Lion.  And preferably understands Olympus ORF (I could use 
>>>> the Viewer software if necessary.)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
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>>
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