But that would depend on your monitor, right? On my monitor, sampling
those areas I get
Darkest part of hair - 18,24,19
Red dress - 158,64,8
Shadow of left hand - 23,21,16
Is that more normal? I really don't know.
Tina
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:11 PM, C.H.Ling <ch_photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Just sampling some RGB values of the image, dark area of his hair read
> (1,20,30), unbalanced. The red cloth read (216,2,2), even it is read color
> I
> have never seen so extreme red bias, there is serious G and B cutoff. Left
> hand of the boy read (161,84,2), green is almost totally disappeared,
> shouldn't happen with daylight illumination. No matter you "feel" the color
> is right or not but the RGB data just not normal.
>
> C.H.Ling
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> > Now that you've mentioned HDR and Silverfast I recall that you've stated
> > before that that's the way you work. I have no experience with your
> > scanning method. I also don't have an Eizo screen. But I can say the
> > the histogram for the boy's hand shows that much of the shadow area is
> > pure black and it cannot be adjusted by the brightness control. I
> > suspect you must be visually much more forgiving of the dark shadows
> > than I am. But if you like it and it appears as reality to you then you
> > should ignore my comments.
> >
> > Chuck Norcutt
> >
> >
> > On 11/7/2012 2:15 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
> >> Thanks, Chuck. I'm scanning with Silverfast and doing two exposure HDR
> >> scans. They come out very dark and contrasty naturally but contain all
> >> of
> >> the information available in the slide. The Kodachrome target is pretty
> >> accurate. I just don't see that in the shadows of the boy's hand. On
> my
> >> calibrated Eizo screen the shadows are soft and not black at all. I'll
> >> admit that they look over saturated but that's the way I see the color
> in
> >> Guatemala. I'll try to restrain myself and dial the saturation into the
> >> negative on the next one just for comparison.
> >>
> >> Tina
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Chuck Norcutt
> >> <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> A big improvement over the previous "Kids in caps" but still
> >>> oversaturated and, I think, still a bit too much contrast. Note in
> >>> particular: This appears to be soft, moderately bright daylight but
> >>> soft enough that it is not casting any strong shadows. Now look at the
> >>> boy's hand at right. Half of the skin tones have gone to black or
> >>> nearly so. That just shouldn't be the case in this light.
> >>>
> >>> Can you show us an original scan with no adjustments? Maybe the
> scanner
> >>> is set to produce too much contrast to begin with. If a scan is too
> >>> dark or contrasty it can be difficult to recover what should be there.
> >>> A good scan will, if anything, be (like an expose to the right digital
> >>> image) a bit too bright but not have any blown highlights. One can
> back
> >>> the brightness down and increase contrast... but it's much more
> >>> difficult to make significant corrections in the opposite direction.
> >>>
> >>> Finally, you should be working in 16 bits during adjustments. 8 bits
> is
> >>> enough to cover the dynamic range of a printed image but does not
> >>> contain enough tonal detail to maintain tonal separation during major
> >>> brightness/contrast editing. You can go back to 8 bits when the
> editing
> >>> is done.
> >>>
> >>> Chuck Norcutt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/6/2012 2:32 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
> >>>> PESO:
> >>>>
> >>>> We drove 30 minutes, waited in line 45 minutes and drove back home 30
> >>>> minutes this morning but we voted!!! Hope you did.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now I'm processing more scans. Clarity seems to make a big difference
> >>> and
> >>>> I'm backing off more on these Kodachrome, contrasty scans.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.pbase.com/image/147189757
> >>>>
> >>>> C&C greatly appreciated. I couldn't do this without all of the help
> >>>> and
> >>>> advice I receive here!
> >>>>
> >>>> Tina
>
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