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Subject: Re: [OM] KC Toy Stores
From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 15:37:01 -0700
On 11/3/2012 8:36 AM, Ken Norton wrote:
> Moose, I have no concerns about my Negative comments about the camera.
> Olympus spent great effort downsizing this thing to the point of
> unusability for some of us. That was their choice.

And thank goodness, as it's perfect for me!

I do think it's more than just hand and camera size. This fellow found the 
small EOS-M comfortable in his large  hands. 
I wear a large size in gloves, but have relatively slender fingers - and find 
the E-M5 comfortable.

> It is my choice to determine whether or not that design choice works for me.

Absolutely!

> It is entirely
> possible that the optional grip addresses that issue. But, by the time I
> add that, I'm getting up there in price and size to where I might as well
> get a more robust system.

There are assumptions here, but I don't care enough to argue.

> Olympus knows full well that the camera, by its self, is unable to satisfy
> those of us with big hands and big lenses. Failure to have the grip readily
> available as part of the store presentation is a choice that both Olympus
> and the store has made.

Now we are to the only point I was trying to make. You propose to 'punish' the 
maker and seller of a tool for not making 
it readily available for you to try. One sale more or less won't make a 
difference to them. IF it happens that it was in 
fact the best tool for you, the only one hurt is you.

You have made it clear that you have other, at least in part emotional, reasons 
to reject the Oly. That's fine. And I 
have no idea if the E-M5, if it were a different brand, might be the best fit 
to your current needs.

I was only commenting on what seems to me to be a poor reason to opt to but or 
not buy a camera.

> But, maybe none of this matters. The vast majority of the cameras were
> purchased sight unseen.

Ah yes, I'll have to admit I bought at least 5D, S100, F30 and E-M5 without 
having seen one in person. There are those 
who deal with the current state of retailing by being happy to buy, try and 
return many products by mail.

> It's like trying to use the new iPhone. The sharp
> edge cuts into your ear, but that doesn't matter. It's the latest Apple.
> Therefore the problem is with me, not the design.

But - maybe it is. Humans vary widely in details of body and physiognomy. 
Making products that 'fit' everyone is 
probably impossible. Consider the possibility that all, or almost all, of those 
people using iPhones are not in fact in 
pain, and hiding it - they may just have different ears than you do. (Bluetooth 
earpiece, dood!)

> People will buy cameras based on specifications, not on how it fits. The end 
> result is that they
> are quick to change cameras because it just leaves them cold.

Another possibility is that some folks are just more adaptable than others. 
I've yet to knowingly hesitate to use or 
stop using a camera based on how it is to hold, at least knowingly.*

I believe you put your finger on some truth when you noted that the 60D just 
wasn't allowing me to create quite the kind 
of images I like. But I was quite happy physically in using it.

With feet, it's different for me. I have three extra, unused pairs of my 
favorite shoes in their boxes in a closet 
because the style was being discontinued. It took me at least three, not 
inexpensive, tries to find light weight hiking 
boots that make my feet happy after miles of walking.

Then, in Maine, I was casually looking at shoes while Carol found a pair of 
boots she wanted, slipped my feet into a 
pair of casual/walking boots, walked out of the store wearing them - and never 
had them off my feet except when I was in 
bed - for the rest of the trip.

Perhaps for me it's footwear, for you it's portable electronic devices. :-) 
Nah, you are probably picky about footwear 
too. ;-)

> I do acknowledge that this can work the opposite way, too. I'm still
> enjoying my E-1 in spite if the fact it is beyond worthless in imaging
> capability.

Is there any way to hollow out the E-1 and use it as a holder for another 
camera? E-M5 Retro Auxiliary Grip?

Adaptable Fingers Moose

* Although the S100 might do so, if I used flash more than very seldom. Turn on 
flash, and the little unit pops up right 
under my finger holding the camera. Perhaps if I used it regularly, I would 
adapt my grip?

-- 
What if the Hokey Pokey *IS* what it's all about?
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