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Subject: Re: [OM] Moosa Culpa [was Got a new (OT) squeeze; my poor pooch]
From: Jez Cunningham <jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:26:53 +0200
Iwert's teaching trip I think.
But guilty as hell on other occasions.

Warning: Results of a trip this week to "Floriade" in Netherlands to
be launched in coming days!

Jez

On 22/06/2012, Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 6/20/2012 2:34 PM, Joel Wilcox wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012, at 10:24 PM, Moose wrote:
>>> In the stairs image, it seems to me the shadows are blocked up and the
>>> highlights a little too compressed. Also,
>>> assuming it is as it looks, a bright, sunny, midsummer's day, the shadows
>>> of the foliage on the stairs and the
>>> building on itself don't seem to be contrasty enough.
>>> <http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/Others/Wilcox/old-cap-stairsw.htm>
>>> The building image needs these things less,
>>> but I did much the same thing to it, to show what it would do.
>>> <http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/Others/Wilcox/old-cap-1-w.htm>
>> I respect what you do, especially with your own fine images, but I learn
>> almost nothing from what you do with mine
>> other than what you do or don't seem to like, and I can't believe anybody
>> else cares one way or the other.
>
> Sorry, I guess I misread what you had intended in your post. I thought you
> were asking for some opinions about the tonal
> details. I said what I thought about shadows, highlights and midtone
> contrast. As I think the old saw about a picture
> and a thousand words is especially true here, I provided an illustration.
>
> I thought/hoped that it might be of help in finding your own favorite way
> with this new film. Since you don't apparently
> want considered thoughts on the tonalities, I hereby revise my comments:
>
> "That's nice! I would have corrected perspective on the overall building
> shot."  Nah, I'd have to say something about
> the muddy shadows to the right of the stairs. There's some nice, subtle
> detail available there ... , but there I go
> again. :-)
>
>> My wish is that you would show more of your own work and share what you
>> have done to get to the results that are
>> important to you. I believe I would learn quite a bit from that. Get up
>> from that computer and go take some photos, man!
>
> Remember, I'm a retired old fart, and don't work at a regular day job. I do,
> in fact, get up and take pics, and spend
> time working on them. Here's a group of 140 from spring trips to a nearby
> Botanic Garden.
> <http://galleries.moosemystic.net/MooseFoto/index.php?gallery=SFBayArea/Tilden_Botanic_Garden>
> I've posted links before
> to a few images, but not to the gallery as a whole.
>
> I've got another group of about 90 or so of that garden waiting to go
> through selection and processing, another 200+
> from another nearby garden and 400 or so from a trip up the coast
> (Including, guess what, another Botanic Garden.) Some
> will get selected, processed and posted in galleries, some may not. For me,
> just the process of visiting, photographing
> and browsing through the images is quite satisfying, largely independently
> of whether they get processed and put up
> sooner or later, or perhaps at all.
>
> I tend not to post sets like this here for a couple of reasons. First, I
> generally find such large galleries posted by
> others to be too big for a casual visit, and tend to feel bad that I'm not
> able to comment thoughtfully on them. For
> example, Jez' recent post on this year's teaching trip was interesting to
> me, but also overwhelming.
>
> So I'll occasionally post links to individual images, as above, but seldom
> directly to the whole gallery. Given the
> number of hits on the Tilden Gallery main page, those who were interested
> found it. As expected, the  number of hits
> declines as one goes further in, except for those with separate posts
> linking to them.
>
> Another reason is that I take lots of relatively straightforward images of
> flowers and other flora and a few fauna - and
> I think a lot of people find that repetitive and boring. I love doing it and
> have a love/hate relationship to processing
> them, but I know they aren't everyone's cuppa. I imagine "Yawn, another
> poppy ... and here's another
> cute/nice/slimy/icky slug.
>
> Although I share some of the processes I use, albeit often on images others
> have taken, it seems to me that the majority
> here prefer to use Lightroom, Aperture, ACR and such tools, and aren't
> interested in taking the time to learn and to
> execute the sort of intensive, layers based, work that I do. Creating a
> useful precis or work flow description of how I
> do some of the work with which I am most pleased is a difficult and time
> consuming job in itself. Trying to show how an
> image evolves during processing is one reason for the multi-step roll-overs
> I post.
>
> Another thing is, I get actual enjoyment in working with images from others.
> It also provides subjects and challenges I
> may not get from my own shots. So it's not only fun for its own sake, but
> I've learned a great deal from it that
> broadens the capabilities I can bring to bear on my own work. I don't even
> post all of them that I do.
>
> So to the extent that it appears to be appreciated and sometimes provides
> useful learning for several folks here, I feel
> good posting the results, but I would do much of it anyway.
>
> Excuse A Moose
>
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> What if the Hokey Pokey *IS* what it's all about?
>
>
>
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> What if the Hokey Pokey *IS* what it's all about?
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