Hi Jez,
Thanks for looking. Moose is a good teacher, I've picked up a lot from his
comments.
Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jez Cunningham" <jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Friday Flower - Jim N.
> jim - it's only 8 hours after your original posting and you've
> exchanged a few emails, been Moosified and replaced the original
> image. Now daylight has reached over here, we're catching up and we
> seem to have missed it all. :-(
> Jez, in another universe
>
> On 11/06/2011, Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Moose,
>>
>> I went back to the RAW file and tried my best, within the limits of PS
>> Elements 6.0, to remove the clipping. I succeeded with the red, but the
>> blue is still clipped somewhat. However, I don't that is really
>> noticeable.
>>
>> I replaced the original image with the newly reworked image, same link.
>>
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Mothers+Day+Basket+5+Wks+Later.jpg.html
>>
>> I think this is a more natural rendition of the real scene. Even my wife
>> agrees!
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Moose" <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Friday Flower - Jim N.
>>
>>
>>> On 6/10/2011 5:45 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>>>> The combination of late afternoon sun and the camera's color rendition
>>>> changed the color slightly. She is probably correct.
>>>
>>> Jim, you've been doing a great job lately of avoiding blown highlights
>>> in
>>> red and yellow flowers.
>>>
>>> What's happened here to make the color go wrong isn't the sun, at least
>>> not primarily so, nor the camera's inherent
>>> rendition. Actually, this is a great example for teaching. :-)
>>>
>>> It's obvious at first glance that there is something 'off', esp. in the
>>> flowers. Seems like the colors are lacking snap,
>>> contrast is low, 'something'. If you look closer at the flowers, esp. at
>>> the larger size, there are large areas that are
>>> all just one color, very unnatural for flowers. Then I hear apparently
>>> the
>>>
>>> color is off.
>>>
>>> That's all from clipping in one channel, in this case, the most common
>>> one
>>>
>>> for flowers, red. Take a look at the
>>> histogram.
>>> <http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/Others/Nichols/Mothers_Day_Basket_5_Wks_Later.htm>
>>>
>>> The overall histogram doesn't look too bad, and that can fool you. The
>>> red
>>>
>>> channel is heavily clipped. That means many
>>> pixels have the same value, 255, for red, while green and blue are
>>> normal.
>>>
>>> What that does is make the red highlights
>>> less red than they should be, both relative to less bright reds and
>>> relative to the rest of the image.
>>>
>>> It also loses tonal differences in the red highlights, so that the
>>> natural
>>>
>>> variations can turn, as here, into one,
>>> undifferentiated color.
>>>
>>> As a side note, the same thing can affect shadows, giving them a color
>>> cast that isn't in the subject. Here, the shadows
>>> may be a little less blue than is accurate. But most people don't notice
>>> that; can you imagine Siddiq suggesting that
>>> the shadows are off in this image? It looks fine to me, too. We're
>>> looking
>>>
>>> at the flowers, anyway.
>>>
>>> Moose
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