jim - it's only 8 hours after your original posting and you've
exchanged a few emails, been Moosified and replaced the original
image. Now daylight has reached over here, we're catching up and we
seem to have missed it all. :-(
Jez, in another universe
On 11/06/2011, Jim Nichols <jhnichols@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Moose,
>
> I went back to the RAW file and tried my best, within the limits of PS
> Elements 6.0, to remove the clipping. I succeeded with the red, but the
> blue is still clipped somewhat. However, I don't that is really noticeable.
>
> I replaced the original image with the newly reworked image, same link.
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Mothers+Day+Basket+5+Wks+Later.jpg.html
>
> I think this is a more natural rendition of the real scene. Even my wife
> agrees!
>
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Moose" <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [OM] IMG: Friday Flower - Jim N.
>
>
>> On 6/10/2011 5:45 PM, Jim Nichols wrote:
>>> The combination of late afternoon sun and the camera's color rendition
>>> changed the color slightly. She is probably correct.
>>
>> Jim, you've been doing a great job lately of avoiding blown highlights in
>> red and yellow flowers.
>>
>> What's happened here to make the color go wrong isn't the sun, at least
>> not primarily so, nor the camera's inherent
>> rendition. Actually, this is a great example for teaching. :-)
>>
>> It's obvious at first glance that there is something 'off', esp. in the
>> flowers. Seems like the colors are lacking snap,
>> contrast is low, 'something'. If you look closer at the flowers, esp. at
>> the larger size, there are large areas that are
>> all just one color, very unnatural for flowers. Then I hear apparently the
>>
>> color is off.
>>
>> That's all from clipping in one channel, in this case, the most common one
>>
>> for flowers, red. Take a look at the
>> histogram.
>> <http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/Others/Nichols/Mothers_Day_Basket_5_Wks_Later.htm>
>>
>> The overall histogram doesn't look too bad, and that can fool you. The red
>>
>> channel is heavily clipped. That means many
>> pixels have the same value, 255, for red, while green and blue are normal.
>>
>> What that does is make the red highlights
>> less red than they should be, both relative to less bright reds and
>> relative to the rest of the image.
>>
>> It also loses tonal differences in the red highlights, so that the natural
>>
>> variations can turn, as here, into one,
>> undifferentiated color.
>>
>> As a side note, the same thing can affect shadows, giving them a color
>> cast that isn't in the subject. Here, the shadows
>> may be a little less blue than is accurate. But most people don't notice
>> that; can you imagine Siddiq suggesting that
>> the shadows are off in this image? It looks fine to me, too. We're looking
>>
>> at the flowers, anyway.
>>
>> Moose
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