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Subject: Re: [OM] Oh, I forgot to mention...
From: John Hudson <OM4T@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 06:52:43 -0300
Which Nikon film scanners were being referred to as having an 
".....unearthly trait of making grainless negs look like images from your A1 
at ISO 800." ?

This is not a fault I have noticed with my Coolscan 9000.

jh


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "C.H.Ling" <ch_photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: [OM] Oh, I forgot to mention...


> Yes, Nikon scanner gives grainly images but can't agree with the dynamic
> range, with Vuescan you can capture the whole range on the negative.
>
> C.H.Ling
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken Norton" <ken@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Chuck, you are correct that it's a low of physics here that tonality
> is neither created nor destroyed. It just changes form.
>
> However, there are three reasons why I'd prefer to work with scanned
> workprints:
>
> 1. Grain control. Film scanners, especially the Nikons, have this
> unearthly trait of making grainless negs look like images from your A1
> at ISO 800. A fine-grained 35mm film will give you a 5x7ish working
> image (I'd do the full-image with rebate onto an 8x10 sheet) that is
> essentially grainless. This then will scan cleanly.
>
> 2. Dynamic range of the neg. There are lots of tricks in the darkroom
> to recovery stuff hidden in the toe and shoulder which is lost in a
> digital scan.
>
> 3. The curves of the film and the curves of the paper complement each
> other. The end result is usually a nice straight-line section with a
> beautifully progressing dynamic compression in the shadows and
> highlights. To get the same from a digital scan requires pushing and
> pulling the curves so much that the grain (and other things) become
> non-linear.
>
> 4. OK, I lied. The fourth thing that comes to mind is dodging and
> burning. I much prefer doing it in the darkroom. It's much more
> organic that way and again, it doesn't turn the grain all whacky.
>
> Chris has managed to do pretty well with digitizing negs, but I'm not
> nearly as good as he is in that and it also points to the fact I
> prefer to work in the darkroom and have no allergies with the
> chemistry.
>
> AG
>
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