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Re: [OM] Battery types [was - iPods from Apple]

Subject: Re: [OM] Battery types [was - iPods from Apple]
From: Jan Steinman <Jan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:54:07 -0800
> From: Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> On 12/15/2010 11:00 AM, Jan Steinman wrote:
>> Although it's open on my desktop, I've not looked at the 
>> BatteryUniversity.com site yet, but my understanding of classic NiCd is that 
>> repeated incomplete discharging to about the same level causes a crystalline 
>> precipitate to form at a certain location related to the discharge depth, 
>> therefore causing the mis-named "memory effect." (It should really be called 
>> the "forget effect." :-)
>> 
>> Memory effect is not a problem when the cell is repeatedly discharged to 
>> different levels. Classic case: a cop runs a walkie-talkie for eight hours a 
>> day and drops it in the charger overnight -- bad news for NiCd cell life. 
>> But memory effect is not likely if you're using a flash or motor drive for 
>> various periods of time and then topping off on a charger.
> 
> "Among rechargeable batteries, nickel-cadmium remains a popular choice for 
> two-way radios, "
> 
> Since what you say here doesn't agree with what's on that site, perhaps you 
> might read it and resolve the differences.

Yea, I'll have to check that out, because it doesn't go along with my 
experience as a ham-radio operator, my work as a repair tech in a two-way 
communications shop, nor my stint as an RF engineer.

I don't know of any hams who still use NiCd cells in their two-way radios, but 
note that the OEM battery packs you get from Icom for older radios still have 
them. Perhaps its just because NiCd's are still cheaper. (New hand-held ham 
gear is almost all lithium powered.)

NiCds do have lower internal resistance than NiMH, which might make them 
preferable in high-current applications -- like photo strobes. But that 
wouldn't explain hand-held radios, which have relatively moderate current 
needs. And if they're so good for hand-helds, why don't you ever see them in 
cell phones? Puzzle.

But such fun has to wait. I have to go pick up a buck to romance our four 
Nubian goats today.

Obligatory camera content: I need to take some photos of our zero-mile raw goat 
milk ice cream... if there's any left...

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Religions are the great fairy tales of conscience. -- George Santayana
:::: Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op ::::

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