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Subject: Re: [OM] Alternate environments [was Some new photos from Clyde Butcher]
From: Andrew Fildes <afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:23:11 +1100
I was referring to living in one or near one or penetrating one deeply. They 
bite back.
I've seen real estate adverts here selling blocks on the edge of, surrounded by 
or overlooking tropical rainforest. These are not good places to live but 
because 'rainforest' is such a positive term, it suckers in the ignorant from 
colder climes. it's the equivalent of buying swampland (river views!). 
Meanwhile, much damage is done. 
A friend had to sell a house he'd built near a creek on a coastal block in 
sub-tropical Queensland because it was uninhabitable for 1-2 months of the 
year, in the wet season, due to sandflies. Nasty. They're small enough to get 
through flyscreens. It looked just lovely though.
Andrew Fildes
afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx



On 14/12/2010, at 11:07 AM, Moose wrote:

> On 12/10/2010 12:59 PM, Andrew Fildes wrote:
>> I work strictly on the principle that mangrove swamps and tropical 
>> rainforests are wonderful environments - but not for humans - at all - ever.
> 
> Not my experience. I've visited both sorts of places, from cloud forest one 
> walks through in high boots to swamp only 
> accessible by boat to river rafting through trackless jungle (warm water!!). 
> I enjoyed it immensely and would certainly 
> not like to have missed it.
> 
> I wouldn't want to live in them, particularly the ones where nothing is ever, 
> ever quite dry, but the ones I was in are 
> certainly wonderful, fascinating places to visit. I don't know that I'll ever 
> travel only for rain forest in the future, 
> as there are so many other things yet to be seen, but would certainly go 
> again if nearby for other reasons.
> 
> Oops, ran out of time to mention I would be away from the list for a few 
> days. I thought I would at least check the list 
> at the little wi-fi  hot spot. But, the retreat was so fully engaging that 
> neither cell phone nor computer was ever 
> turned on.
> 
> I was visiting temperate zone, coastal redwood rainforest. Like the various 
> terrestrial environments, there are many 
> kinds of human communities. This list in one I highly value. The one that has 
> formed around an annual communal singing 
> retreat a 100+ year old center in the coastal mountains among redwoods 
> fulfills other communal, emotional and spiritual 
> needs. In its third year, about 2/3 of us have been there all three. I can't 
> wait to sign up for next year.
> 
> Just as this list brings together people with certain commonalities, Singing 
> Through the Heart of Winter attracts people 
> with a different set of commonalities that's also deeply important to me. 
> Another indication of how focused I was on 
> community engagement and my own, related internal process - I took cameras, 
> but shot not a single image. Some things 
> can't be photographed.
> 
> Moose
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