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Subject: Re: [OM] Pessimist Club [was Optimist Club]
From: Chris Barker <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 10:23:50 +0100
But if a chap had to take those points into account, Andrew, it would be a less 
decisive article, fewer people would read it and less money would be available 
from ads.

I watched the BBC programme last week and the CO2 -> acidification part was 
balanced and persuasive; the speakers, both British and American, were worried 
but not totally pessimistic.  However, that programme came just after a 
Dispatches about phone-hacking by the News of the World;  News International, 
the police and the body politic would appear to be too close.  Just you wait 
for the arrival of a ghastly Fox News equivalent . . .

. . . I might want to join you in Oz.  Wait, though, the passage is a little 
more pricey now, I understand ;-)

Chris


On 9 Oct 2010, at 08:10, Andrew Fildes wrote:

> I'm not sure who is guilty of the inaccuracies in this article - the writer 
> or the sources he read - but they display a clear misunderstandingof the way 
> that scientists describe change. 
> 'Acidification' - if the pH of a body of water changes from 8 to 7.5, then it 
> has been 'acidified', that is, moved towards the acid end of the spectrum, i 
> despite the fact that it is still basic by usual understanding. It is more 
> acid than it was.
> Corals themselves will doubtless survive but which corals and where. There 
> are many, many species. If the sea level changes, then existing reefs bleach 
> or 'drown' as coral only survives in specific shallow water conditions. Of 
> course, other reefs will begin to grow in the new zone but they will not be 
> the same reefs and the same species will not dominate. Incidentally human 
> populations are a nice analogy to corals as we tend to inhabit a zone as 
> restricted above sea level as the corals below sea level.
> The theorist's DO pay attention to the empirical data - these comments are 
> not based on the data but on a sociopolitical misreading.
> The fact that the seas will remain slightly basic and the corals will survive 
> in some form or place is actually irrelevant to the overall argument.
> 
> Andrew Fildes (M.Env.Sci.)
> afildes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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