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Subject: Re: [OM] (OM) web-pages: Flash or html ?
From: Nathan Wajsman <photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:14:10 +0200
Brian, I dislike Flash too, but for different reasons--security holes, crashing 
browsers etc. However, I do understand why many photographers and other content 
providers use it--it makes it much harder to steal images and allows for slick 
presentations.

As for access speeds, I am afraid that in this day and age you cannot expect 
web designers to limit themselves by making their sites suitable for dial-up 
users. These days it is very unusual to access the net at such a slow speed.

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
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YNWA





On Jun 12, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Brian Swale wrote:

> A few days ago when Jez invited us to look at
> http://www.nothere.be  I clicked onto it and was amazed at how slow it is to 
> load. Because it uses Flash.  
> I don't understand why people use Flash programming.
> 
> I'm on dialup, and my new house has a connection speed at the time of 
> these checks of about 33.6 kbps.
> "Broadband" as supplied here is not on fibre-optic cable, but copper cable, 
> and for the extra cost one might get anything from 20 to 100 kbps.  Not 
> worth paying for.
> 
> So I decided to run a few checks.
> www.nothere.be took 6 minutes 15 seconds for the first image to appear, 
> and
> 25 minutes 10 seconds (4,750.706 bytes) for the first 14 out of ?96 to 
> appear. I spent no more time there.
> 
> At about the same time Chris Barker invited us to inspect his flower shots. 
> Another site using Flash ...
> http://mobile.me/
> 6 minutes 15 seconds until the first image appeared at 650,000 bytes
> at 9 minutes 57 seconds they had all showed up at 2,127,056 bytes.
> 
> In contrast my"commercial" site (brianswale.com) which uses only html 
> loaded the front page in 3 minutes 23  (706,000 bytes)
> and the next step, the gallery page with lots of thumbnails, in a further 2 
> minutes.  About five and a half minutes for a lot more graphic content.
> 
> One of the Zuiko Solstice sites that I host
> http://homepages.caverock.net.nz/~bj/solstice/2004/2004.htm  now 6 years 
> old with an image on the initial main page and 31 thumbnails
> took 6 minutes to load them all - 1.3 MB data
> 
> Incidentally, the quality of those images is amazingly good by todays digital 
> standards.
> 
> For people on fibre-optic broadband, these differences are probably trivial; 
> I 
> can't tell. But for me they may make the difference between me looking, or 
> not looking.
> 
> Brian Swale. 
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