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Re: [OM] Converting RW2 to ORF

Subject: Re: [OM] Converting RW2 to ORF
From: David Irisarri Vila <div2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:46:58 +0100
Dear C.H.Ling,

Yeah I am aware of this article :) Dpreview also highlights this issue. 

Please don´t take this as a criticism (you know I really like your photography 
work) but if I wanted a manual focus camera, I´d buy again the OM4T with the 50 
f1.2 lens and 100f2. The metering system was awesome, superb viewfinder, superb 
lenses, etc...I would only use MF if I had OM4T split/microprism focus screen, 
I really liked that system. Enlarging the picture, focus and then zoom out, 
come on!!!. We are losing the target!!! This isn´t photography at all. Non 
optimized lenses for MFT produce ghost effect wide open. All of them!!! I need 
a new Zuiko Digital 50 f2 optimized for MFT. AF doesn´t work in PEN cameras (I 
mean fast focusing). I don´t want adapters. I like MTF for its compactness. So 
no adapters please!!! I want a 20 or 25mm f/1.4 lens, I know Olympus can make 
it much better than Panasonic 20/1.7. Panasonic removes purple fringing in 
their JPEGs but unprocessed RAW images have lot of purple fringing in this 
lens. Resolution is hair rising but vignetting is also very high!!! :(

http://www.photozone.de/olympus--four-thirds-lens-tests/464-pana_20_17?start=1 

f 1.7   1,48 EV
f 2     1,17 EV
f2.8    0,76 EV
f4      0,52 EV
f5.6    0,47 EV
f8      0,46 EV

I am also looking forward to seeing Panasonic 14mm f2.8. So three prime lenses. 
Wide, standard and zoom!!! That´s all!!! I am fed up of zooms! What´s the point 
of supersonic wave filter if you put a zoom 14-140 lens in your camera and you 
never take it out.

Regards,

Dave

 

El 22/03/2010, a las 09:56, C.H.Ling escribió:

> For the image blur problem it is detail documented here:
> 
> http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/EP1/EP1A.HTM
> 
> It is mainly due to shutter vibration, loose constructed 14-42 and IS. 
> Firmware 1.1 improves the problem but it is better to shoot with IS off.
> 
> I found the same blur problem with a Tamron 70-300 and 5D II (without IS of 
> course) at slow shutter speed so I sold it early last year. Olympus Pen is 
> fine with me as I will only use Olympus Pen FT lenses (except the DZ 12mm), 
> they are so solid that there will be no blur problem due to loose lens.
> 
> Slow AF? I don't use AF, I will use the high quality EVF and do MF, lens 
> mechanical noise will not exist either. I'm used to the 5D II video mode 
> with 100% MF (its video AF mode is also very slow and not usable).
> 
> So far the Pen videos I have seen are having too much noise 
> reduction/compression and the details are a little chunk, don't know if they 
> have been converted (poorly). I think I need to make some myself to 
> conclude.
> 
> C.H.Ling
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Irisarri Vila" <div2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [OM] Converting RW2 to ORF
> 
> 
> Hi C.H.Ling,
> 
> The main reason I want to load Panasonic RAW images in Olympus Studio 2 is 
> for Olympus unique rendering color/tone as you have mention. Clearly Olympus 
> has a great knowledge in this field and they are outputting the best JPG 
> from the camera in the market.
> This is something very attractive as honestly I am really fed up with post 
> processing, raw workflow, color management, etc... I want to take pictures 
> again. Olympus is going in the right way, avoiding any post processing in 
> the computer. We want perfect pictures coming from the camera.
> 
> Having tried almost all RAW Workflow packages, honestly I hate ACR, 
> Lightroom and Silkypix because when sharpening they give a plastic synthetic 
> image. Chroma noise is something it can be removed but luminance noise it´s 
> something you should never remove from the image.You can love it or hate it 
> but you must live with it. Olympus software package is also horrible (I 
> really like CaptureONE V layout, menus and this easy way of working) but 
> Olympus image processing pipeline is the best I have seen until now. Images 
> look real, like film!
> 
> I am really angry because I am fed up of waiting, waiting and waiting for a 
> camera that never appears. PEN really grabbed my attention but why using an 
> unpolished raw technology. Although Olympus reports there is nothing wrong 
> with IS, there is something malfunctioning with the camera and the images 
> become blurred between 1/160-60s. The exposure meter overexposes too much, 
> ultra slow autofocusing (a pain in the neck), video also it´s horrible with 
> tons of artifacts, the lens makes lot of noise, etc...
> 
> Anyway, I am an Olympus lover but today I must recognize Panasonic is 
> leading the microfourthirds system. GF1 is a clear winner. They add 
> chromatic aberration/distortion removal in the camera and they forgot corner 
> shading compensation :( but there isn´t anything perfect!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> El 22/03/2010, a las 03:07, C.H.Ling escribió:
> 
>> I will get a M4/3 for my Pen FT lenses until the DZ 12mm came out, I'm 
>> more
>> interested on Olympus in the rendering of color/tone. I like the stereo
>> recording on Pen but a bit worry about what you mean by better video in
>> Panasonic, is the resolution better in GF1? I can't find very good sample
>> and comparision for both.
>> 
>> Concerning the raw convertion, Silkpix can totally trun off sharpening and
>> noise reduction while Olympus will retain some sharpening even at minimum
>> setting. I don't like the sharpening in Olympus and always do it in post, 
>> it
>> has too little control but I do like the color/tone rendering. On the 
>> other
>> hand there are much more control in Silkpix than Olympus Master or even
>> Studio.
>> 
>> C.H.Ling
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David Irisarri Vila"
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I wonder if someone knows how to modify Panasonic GF1 RW2 files and make
>> Olympus Studio 2 recognize them as ORF files. I have been reviewing
>> thoroughly PEN cameras and GF1. I´ll go for the Panasonic with a 20 mm 
>> f1.7
>> lens.
>> PEN cameras have a superb engine for generating JPEG files with a charming
>> tone curve, broader dynamic range, less aggressive noise reduction
>> algorithms and better color. Autofocus, exposure meter, white balance, 
>> lens
>> and video is much better in GF1.
>> 
>> So I would like to use Olympus Studio 2 and process GF1 raw files like if
>> they were E-PL1 raw files. Venus engine is worse than TruePIC V+ found in
>> E-PL1 camera. There are always a magenta cast, haloes /when sharpening) 
>> and
>> tone curve is worse.
>> 
>> I have been waiting too long for E-5, fixed-focal length lenses (and
>> bright), for a better PEN camera (E-P1, E-P2 and E-PL1 are almost the 
>> same)
>> and ZD lenses for PEN cameras are bullshit and very slow lenses.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> David
> 
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