Thanks, Chuck. I hope it is history.
Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [OM] OT - new monitor setup
> Copying only involves read operations on the source file. Verification
> still only involves read operations on both source and destination.
> Destroying the source file requires at least one write operation. A
> file opened for read only should give an error on an attempted write.
> Like I said, it's hard to imagine how it could occur... although I can
> but it's not pretty.
>
> Chuck Norcutt
>
>
> Jim Nichols wrote:
>> That was my conclusion also, unless the source and copy files are pulled
>> into some common spot for verification of the copy, and then restored to
>> their proper location. It has not occurred again, and everyone's
>> favorite
>> whipping boy, Norton, has not reported any significant bugs. I am just
>> careful to let the copy process run its course before I pull the plug.
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 7:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [OM] OT - new monitor setup
>>
>>
>>> Having the source file disappear on a copy operation can only be the
>>> result of a nasty, nasty bug. It's hard to imagine how it can even
>>> occur.
>>>
>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim Nichols wrote:
>>>> Hi Chuck,
>>>>
>>>> The external hard drive lights don't show activity during the period
>>>> when
>>>> I
>>>> am denied the right to disconnect. It has been some time since I had
>>>> the
>>>> problem, but I seem to recall that a few files disappeared, not from
>>>> the
>>>> backup drive, but from the C drive. I did not understand that, unless
>>>> I
>>>> interrupted some sort of a checking comparison operation. I was able
>>>> to
>>>> restore them from an earlier backup, so it was no big deal, but I have
>>>> been
>>>> careful to avoid premature disconnects since that time.
>>>>
>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chuck Norcutt" <chucknorcutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:48 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [OM] OT - new monitor setup
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You may be seeing the effect of cache. As far as the copy operation
>>>>> is
>>>>> concerned it read and wrote everything required to the backup disk.
>>>>> But
>>>>> if you have a large cache available the write that the copy operation
>>>>> did was only to cache memory. If you have a large cache the physical
>>>>> writing to the backup disk could go on for some time after the copy
>>>>> appears to be complete.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim Nichols wrote:
>>>>>> Candace,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use an 80GB WD external drive for weekly backup of ordinary work
>>>>>> files,
>>>>>> but not for images. I simply use Windows file copy procedures to
>>>>>> copy
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> files to a new folder identified by date. If I query the disconnect
>>>>>> icon
>>>>>> shortly after using the drive, it also tells me that the drive cannot
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> disconnected now without consequences. I just wait a while and try
>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only time I have had a problem was when I did disconnect too
>>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>> Apparently the drive does some "housekeeping" activity after each
>>>>>> backup,
>>>>>> and, if interrupted, this can result in problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Candace Lemarr" <CandaceRocks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 9:29 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OM] OT - new monitor setup
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just echoing Moose's comments about not needing to use the software
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> your HDD. I have 4 external HDD ranging in size from 250GB to 1TB, 2
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> SeaGate, 2 are WD, both run in a plug-n-play fashion, no need for
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> own software. In fact, I have often wondered if there would be some
>>>>>>> advantage to using the software that comes with the HDD, but I have
>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>> no need to toy with it. I have copied DVDs, CDs, ISO files, audio
>>>>>>> files,
>>>>>>> and images directly to the HDD from memory card, disc, video camera,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> voice recorder, no need to save to the C drive first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only thing different between the 4 is that the 1TB (WD) must be
>>>>>>> disconnected by using "safely remove hardware" (per manufacturer's
>>>>>>> instructions) each time I unplug it from the tower, I am guessing
>>>>>>> perhaps because it has no on/off button. If I simply unplug it, it
>>>>>>> tells
>>>>>>> me that writing to the HDD failed, even though the writing was
>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>> done, and all files are there. Windows XP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Candace
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moose wrote:
>>>>>>>> Get out of SmartWare and use Explorer. You can simply drag and drop
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> files from one drive to the other - or copy and paste.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Moose
>>>>>>>>
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