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Subject: Re: [OM] Pee bags, was Dunnies - was Nathan's PAW 48: point and shoot
From: "Sue Pearce" <bs.pearce@xxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:13:16 -0600
Perhaps the term you young fellows are trying to recall is "relief tube" 
where your by-products are sent outdoors.

Bill Pearce
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From: "Chris Barker" <ftog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Olympus Camera Discussion" <olympus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:30 PM
Subject: [OM] Pee bags, was Dunnies - was Nathan's PAW 48: point and shoot


> For the aircraft which have it, Charles, it's just a toilet.  In smaller, 
> faster machines it's a pee bag or something like "relief system".  I've 
> only used it once, in the F16.
>
> Story: switch off now if you get bored easily.
>
> My first ever long-range trip, using a USAF Reserves KC-135 to get 5 F16s 
> from MacDill AFB, FL to NAS Miramar near San Diego.  I felt the need to 
> pee after a couple of hours, perhaps over Texas.  So I broke the membrane 
> on a pee bag and tried to use it.  But the little fighter's seat is 
> inclined at 30deg (vs the 13deg of most other ejection seats) and I'm not 
> well-endowed enough to make the flow from leaning backwards like that.  So 
> I have to unstrap and lean forward a bit.  But also it's cold in the 
> cockpit and a limp dick becomes quite difficult to find.  So you have to 
> think warm thoughts to make it all happen!
>
> What is also difficult is holding formation with a tanker while trying to 
> find your willie in a flight suit strapped into an ejection seat.  So I 
> wandered away from the formation and almost couldn't find them when I had 
> finished my business.
>
> But that was preferable to a USAF colleague's experience.  Before we 
> departed MacDill he showed me a pee tube affair that he had rigged up: a 
> funnel over said willie, tube-connected to a pee bag in his lower flight 
> suit pocket.  Trouble was it leaked ... and he got out of his super-cool 
> F16 on the ramp at Fightertown USA with a long wet patch on his flight 
> suit leg and crotch, risking great scorn from our Naval hosts.  Oh, the 
> ignominy!
>
> And this is a photo of me in a D-model (2-seater) just before departing 
> Miramar.  I think it was taken with an Olympus Infinity Twin, bought in 
> San Diego a few days before.
>
> http://gallery.me.com/zuiko#100053
>
> Chris
>
> On 8 Dec 2009, at 18:09, Charles Geilfuss wrote:
>
>> Chris what do the fly boys call it? I've never heard it called anything 
>> in
>> the big jets. In the small ones I suppose its a diaper or "just wait".?!
>>
>> Charlie
>
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