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Re: [OM] My first roll self-development B&W film

Subject: Re: [OM] My first roll self-development B&W film
From: "Michael Wong" <mialop@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:09:51 +0800
Moose,
Thanks for your comment.

What is LCE? Is it included in PS?

Thanks.


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Michael




2009/1/4 Moose <olymoose@xxxxxxxxx>

> Michael Wong wrote:
> > http://www.fotop.net/MichaelWong/Rollei35sBW
> >
> > Although it's not very good, the first step is successful ^_^
> >
> Michael Wong wrote:
> > I missed the info from the website (
> http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.html ) & it recommends 9 mins
> developing time for Lucky 100 by TMAX developer. I made it less 2 mins,
> maybe it caused to low contrast :-(
> >
>
> It's been something like 40 years since I developed a roll of B&W, so I
> have no idea what the short development time would do.
>
> But it's only been a couple of weeks since I scanned some B&W film. It's
> impossible to tell from here how much of the results is from
> film/development and how much from scanner, scanning software and
> operator settings.
>
> Using IMG3605 as an example, overall contrast is fine, in the sense that
> neither highlight or shadow detail is lost at the ends of the histogram.
> However, the image overall looks flat and lifeless, especially for a
> subject so busy and full of life. As I see it, the problem is at least
> partially in local contrast and sharpness, with lesser problems of tonal
> distribution.
>
> Although this is a film image originally, I am seeing it as a digital
> capture, since it was scanned. Possibly as a result of the development,
> local contrast, tonal differentiation at the edges between areas of
> different tonal value, is very low. Also, detail actually captured by
> lens and film is lost in the digital process. ALL digitally captured
> images need sharpening if one wishes to see all the detail. It's nothing
> to do with the source or the nominal resolution of the sensor/scanner,
> but with the nature of scanning of an analog image with a fixed grid.
> I've tried to explain the reason in clear, simple terms on Zone-10.
> <
> http://zone-10.com/cmsm/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=149&Itemid=1&limit=1&limitstart=1
> >
>
> Here are a couple of versions of how I think the image "should" look.
> <http://www.moosemystic.net/Gallery/Others/MWong/IMG3605.htm>
>
> I first applied noise reduction, mostly so that LCE and sharpening
> wouldn't accentuate the grain. Then I applied LCE, Curves and
> Sharpening. I also did use masks, so those tools were applied in
> different amounts to different parts of the image.
>
> It may well be that the right film/developer combination will get you
> negs that will print perfectly with the right paper and darkroom
> technique. You will still need LCE and/or sharpening to get a similar
> effect on the web for scanned images.
>
> All the above assumes a desire for the kind of result I linked to. There
> may well be others for whom the soft, almost dreamy quality af the image
> as-is will be preferable.
>
> Moose
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